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gaby91
30-01-2009, 21:28
A aparut chrome 530 GT HDMI cu 512 DDR2/64 biti cu 625 la GPU si 1000 la memorii :
S3 Graphics Chrome 530 GT Product Highlights


Microsoft® DirectX® 10.1 and OpenGL 2.1/3.0 Support: Realistic 3D rendering and increased visual sharpness through improved Anti-aliasing (AA), Image/Texture improvements, higher precision formats, and programmable lighting effects allow users to experience life-like rendering and image quality.

GPGPU (General Purpose GPU) Technology: Utilizing an array of S3 stream processors, the Chrome GPU can accelerate parallel data workloads and perform work on thousands of concurrent threads to achieve Gigaflops (GFLOPS) of high-throughput computations. Applications that can utilize S3 GPGPU technologies include high performance computing (HPC) infrastructures, video transcoding/encoding, game physics, and many more.

S3 Graphics PowerWise™ Technology: Sophisticated algorithms and power control mechanisms will allow Chrome 500 Series GPUs to deliver the optimal balance between performance and power on-the-fly, to meet performance and application requirements for power efficient graphics intensive computing on small form factor PCs. Consuming under 25W of power, the Chrome 500 is ideal as the graphics of choice for HTPC (home theatre PCs), DIY enthusiasts, and existing PC users looking for the best bang for the buck upgrade.

PCI Express®2.0: Chrome 500 Series GPUs support the latest high throughput PCI Express® 2.0 bus technology for bandwidth intensive applications and games. The faster connection speed also allows users to take advantage of additional S3 Graphics technologies such as AcceleRAM™ which leverages system memory for image data storage, and MultiChrome™ Multi-GPU technology to unleash higher 3D rendering performance.

Advanced Display Connectivity: Integrated digital display support with HDCP content protection allows users to connect to a multitude of monitors and digital displays for HD content viewing across a secure display path. Built-in HDMI transmitters with Dolby 7.1 digital surround sound and HD Audio controllers allow seamless audio/video HDMI connectivity. Display interfaces include the newly introduced DisplayPort, HDMI, dual-link DVI, and VGA.

Coco
31-01-2009, 12:01
Revealing The Power of DirectX 11 (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3507)

She's much cooler than her older brother, and way hotter too. Many under-the-hood enhancements mean higher performance for features available but less used under DX10. The major changes to the pipeline mark revolutionary steps in graphics hardware and software capabilities. Tessellation (made up of the hull shader, tessellator and domain shader) and the Compute Shader are major developments that could go far in assisting developers in closing the gap between reality and unreality. These features have gotten a lot of press already, but we feel the key to DirectX 11 adoption (and thus exploitation) is in some of the more subtle elements.

Rather than throwing out old constructs in order to move towards more programmability, Microsoft has built DirectX 11 as a strict superset of DirectX 10/10.1, which enables some curious possibilities. Essentailly, DX10 code will be DX11 code that chooses not to implement some of the advanced features. On the flipside, DX11 will be able to run on down level hardware. Of course, all of the features of DX11 will not be available, but it does mean that developers can stick with DX11 and target both DX10 and DX11 hardware without the need for two completely separate implementations: they're both the same but one targets a subset of functionality. Different code paths will be necessary if something DX11 only (like the tessellator or compute shader) is used, but this will still definitely be a benefit in transitioning to DX11 from DX10.

Coco
03-02-2009, 18:59
RV790 Could Hold Higher Core Clock Speeds (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?84009)

NVIDIA GT218 Specifications Gain Clarity (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?84012)

La CeBit-ul din martie o sa descoperim foarte multe lucruri noi si interesante...

poparamiro
04-02-2009, 02:49
Real Power Consumption - 4870 X2 & GTX295 out of Spec! - LINK (http://ht4u.net/reviews/2009/leistungsaufnahme_graka/index14.php]) -

burebista
04-02-2009, 07:13
Pentru genul asta de masuratori prefer totusi XBit.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/evga-geforce-gtx295/gtx295_power.png

DeDeRa
04-02-2009, 07:18
Ce diferenta mare este intre GTX 260 55nm si 65nm :| Se pare ca stiu ce cumpar la vara!

Dragos Saraolu
04-02-2009, 08:52
Nu stiu ce sa zic despre diferenta de consum dintre cele doua, teoretic cam 30W ar trebui sa fie, cel putin asa se laudau, dar din pacate sursa mea nu arata decat vreo 10W diferenta si asta la valoarea maxima atinsa. Avand in vedere ca ambele placi le-am pus acelasi sistem si am rulat acelasi proces ar fi trebuit sa vad diferenta de 30W intre cele doua consumuri, ori nu a fost asa.

Coco
07-02-2009, 10:50
NVIDIA Designs New GTX 260 PCB, Further Reduces Manufacturing Costs (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?84409)

DeDeRa
07-02-2009, 10:54
Coco, iar asta e semn bun sau rau?

poparamiro
07-02-2009, 11:24
Pentru entuziasti nici intr-un caz nu e un lucru bun :)
''The ADP4100 lacks the I2C interface, which means voltage control will be much more difficult than on current PCBs of the GeForce 260,280, 285 and 295''

Coco
07-02-2009, 11:34
Corect. Insa nVidia isi ia masuri de siguranta in cazul unei ,,contra-ofensive" Ati, avand o plaja mai larga in care pot jongla cu preturile.

Coco
12-02-2009, 16:45
Zotac Readying Custom-Design GTX 285 Accelerator (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?84945)

Coco
14-02-2009, 09:04
AMD Preparing Radeon HD 4890, Slated for April (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?85163)

Samples based on the RV790XT A11 are currently running at speeds of 850/975 MHz (core/memory). AMD is reportedly telling its partners that the RV790XT is expected to be around 20% faster than the RV770XT (HD 4870), and has NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 285 in its sights, for head-on competition. Additionally, AMD may force NVIDIA to reconsider its pricing, since the RV790XT is expected to be priced between US$199 to US$249, up to $150 cheaper than the GeForce GTX 285 in its current pricing.

Coco
17-02-2009, 18:07
Samsung's 7Gb/s GDDR5 in 50nm Mass Production, Targets 40nm GPUs - Could this mean mainstream GDDR5? (http://www.dailytech.com/Samsungs+7Gbs+GDDR5+in+50nm+Mass+Production+Target s+40nm+GPUs/article14289.htm)

Samsung noted that it was able to tweak its 50nm process so much that it increased its production efficiency by a hundred percent over its 60nm process. If true, this will cut prices low enough that GDDR5 will be able to finally move into mainstream video cards.
Radeon HD 4770 Sets Sights on GeForce GTS 240 (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?85476)

The HD 4770 SKU will be distinct in being the first mainstream graphics card with GDDR5 memory. It will use its 128-bit wide bus to accommodate 512 MB of memory. The HD 4750 on the other hand, will stick to GDDR3. The reference model may have 1GB of it. HD 4770 is expected to be priced around the US $120 mark, making it a head-on competitor to the GeForce GTS 240, which is known to be a re-badged GeForce 8800/9800GT with higher reference clock-speeds. The HD 4750 has GeForce 9600 GT in its sights, with its expected initial pricing ranging around the $100 mark. The two are expected to follow the RV790 launch, and will arrive in May, close to two months after the GeForce GTS 240 comes to be.

Baubaul
19-02-2009, 15:47
Arctic Cooling Announces the Accelero Xtreme 4870X2
The Swiss low noise cooling solution provider Arctic Cooling today announced the launch of the Accelero XTREME 4870X2. Especially designed for the ATI Radeon HD4870X2, the Accelero XTREME 4870X2 follows the sophisticated design of the Accelero XTREME series, offering the best cooling solution for this high-end VGA card.




Extreme cooling performance
Outstanding cooling comes from outstanding components. The Accelero XTREME 4870X2 is equipped with three 92mm PWM fans running from 1,000 to 2,000 RPM, generating 81 CFM airflow which allows the fans to remove the heat from the two GPUs efficiently. The eight-heatpipe design also improves heat dissipation and achieves 320 Watts cooling capacity. The result is significant - the GPU temperature is 50°C lower than with the stock cooler. This enhances not only the overclock performance, but also extends the service life of your valuable graphics card.

Quiet cooling guaranteed
By using the low noise impeller and patented fan holder, the three 92mm PWM fans are incredibly quiet. Also thanks to the PWM function, the fans run just at necessary speed while offering sufficient cooling at the lowest noise level. Even running at full speed 2,000 RPM, the Accelero XTREME 4870X2 operates almost in silent with only 0.5 Sone of sound, creating a much quieter gaming environment beyond anyone's imagination.

The Accelero XTREME 4870X2 comes with a 6-year limited warranty. This product will be available by end of
March 2009. The MSRP is US$68.30 and 53.95€ (excluding VAT).

http://www.techpowerup.com/85578/Arctic_Cooling_Announces_the_Accelero_Xtreme_4870X 2.html

Vladutz20
19-02-2009, 17:25
MSI GTX 260 1792 Mb (http://www.pc-waves.com/index.php/ro/stiri/stiri-zilnice/605-msi-gtx-260-lightning-with-1792mb)

poparamiro
24-02-2009, 04:31
30 graphic cards run 15 games @ hardspell (http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=4997&pageid=3654)

Artanis
24-02-2009, 18:03
MultiGPU Update: Two-GPU Options in Depth (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3517&p=1)

Nice read.

Vladutz20
24-02-2009, 18:40
Palit GeForce GTX 285 cu 2GB GDDR3 (http://www.pc-waves.com/index.php/ro/stiri/stiri-zilnice/641-palit-geforce-gtx-285-with-2gb-gddr3)

lucassp
25-02-2009, 16:50
Radeon HD 4750 RV740 review | preview |test (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4750-rv740-review-preview-test/)


The economy right now is in a tight spot, the entire world is fighting off the global financial crisis. As such people will have less to spend on entertainment and niche products, that is where graphics card series like the ones shown today come in. This is one of the reasons why I believe ATI's RV740 products could be a nice success. Products like these offer very decent gaming performance targeted at the budget end-user below a 100 USD level. That's stuff to think about for a minute. I mean, for less than 100 bucks you'll be able to get a videocard that performs fairly close to a Radeon HD 4850. I think that's impressive, an achievement all by itself.

DeDeRa
25-02-2009, 17:05
Mai putin de 100$? Si se tine asa bine in spatele lui 4850? Asta e foarte interesant...

Coco
25-02-2009, 18:09
Citat lab501 (http://lab501.ro/stiri/ati-radeon-hd4750-40-de-nm-testat-in-premiera):

Ceea ce surprinde este noul cooler standard, foarte probabil un Zalman (VF900-Cu). Avand in vedere ca ATI HD4750 este produs in procesul tehnologic de numai 40 de nm, este foarte probabil ca acesta racire sa fie atat silentiosa cat si eficienta.

Daca veti citi intregul test realizat de guru3d.com (5 jocuri + 3DMark Vantege), veti observa ca performantele noii placi sunt mai bune ca ale unui ATI HD4830 si foarte aproapiate de cele ale unui ATI HD4850. Pretul de lansare din luna aprilie va fi mai mic de 100 de dolari (in SUA acum cel mai ieftin HD4830 costa 90$, iar cel mai ieftin HD4850 144$), si astfel va constitui placa video ATI cu cel mai bun raport pret/performanta din segmentul ei.

Despre concurentul direct de la Nvidia, GTS 240 (ce are la baza acelasi procesor ca si 8800GT/9800 GT) nu se stie inca ce pret va avea. Iar vizavi de performanta, cum acum un 9800GT este ~ egal cu HD4830, foarte probabil GTS 240 (9800GT overclock-at la 675/1688/2200 MHz core/shader/memorie) va fi ~ egal cu HD4750.
Preconizez ca ATI HD4750 va avea un raport calitate/pret mai bun ca al lui GTS 240.

poparamiro
26-02-2009, 14:33
Galaxy (http://vr-zone.com/articles/galaxy-unveils-self-designed-gtx-285-card-w-digital-pwm/6648.html?doc=6648) Unveils Self Designed GTX 285 Card w/ Digital PWM

gaby91
28-02-2009, 07:52
The S3 Graphics Chrome 540 GTX gives multimedia users the perfect balance of DirectX 10.1 / OpenGL 3.0 graphics performance, high-quality Picture-in-Picture Blu-ray playback, and a high-speed, high-throughput 64-bit GDDR3 memory bus interface running at 850 MHz. Display connections use the latest VESA DisplayPort standard, HDMI, dual-link DVI-I, and an optional CRT interface using a DVI-to-CRT dongle for the latest high resolution display support.

The Chrome 540 GTX incorporates a high performance ChromotionHD™ 2.0 video processor unit (VPU), advanced filtering, and clear-image post-processing to perform ultra smooth decoding of MPEG-4/AVC (H.264), MPEG-2, and VC-1 for Blu-ray and HD video. To further enhance operation for home theatre and CE applications that demand cool-and-quiet operation, the Chrome 540 GTX features PowerWise™ technology for Green Computing to “Reduce the Heat” without compromising performance, features, or quality.
https://s3gstore.s3graphics.com/

poparamiro
02-03-2009, 04:06
HD 4870X2 QuadFire vs GTX 295 Quad SLI Compared @ xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=219338)

Coco
02-03-2009, 19:27
Scaderi impresionante de pret pentru ATI HD 4870 si ATI HD 4850 @ lab 501 (http://lab501.ro/stiri/scaderi-impresionante-de-pret-pentru-ati)

Mai exact, pretul unui 4850 va scadea cu 30$ (de la 159$ pana la 129$) iar cel al unui 4870 cu 50$ (de la 199$ la 149$ - cu 25%!!!). In acest fel, lupta va fi extrem de stransa in cazul HD 4850 vs. GTS 250 512 Mb, si aproape transata in cazul HD 4870 vs. GTS 250 1024 Mb.
Oare cand si in Romania???

Boggy
02-03-2009, 19:34
Va dati seama unde s-a ajuns? 4750 = ~4850 = ~8800GTX, care era vf de gama acum vreo 2 ani. Dar sa coste si sub 100$, e ceva fenomenal...

raresvintea
02-03-2009, 20:35
offtopic total.... performantele se dubleaza la 2 ani..... si noi pt a tine pasul, dpdv jocuri trebuie sa scoatem la 2 ani bani.....

lucassp
03-03-2009, 09:55
Palit GeForce GTS 250 2048MB review | test (http://www.guru3d.com/article/palit-geforce-gts-250-2048mb-review-test/1)


Typically it would make sense that over time the product would be outdated. But rest assured, there is plenty of life left on the G92B series GPUs powering up the 9800 GTX+ and now the GeForce GTS 250. In it's evolutionary development path, it did get a tweak or two and certainly got faster over time with a couple of architectural and driver tweaks. Next to that power consumption went down; more importantly .. price went down.

Coco
03-03-2009, 18:45
NVIDIA GeForce 182.08 WHQL Released - Adds Support for GeForce GTS 250 (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?86974)

lucassp
04-03-2009, 15:04
NVIDIA To Update Windows 7 Drivers Regularly (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/11564/nvidia_to_update_windows_7_drivers_regularlyindex. html)


NVIDIA accounted for about 29% of all Vista crashes, almost 11% more than caused by Vista's problems itself, and nearly 20% more crashes than were caused by ATI.

poparamiro
05-03-2009, 13:46
Asus (http://en.expreview.com/2009/03/05/cebit-2009-asus-offers-formula-series-graphics-cards.html) Offers Formula Series Graphics Cards
Mie nu-mi plac defel, macar daca ar merge grozav in oc cum se zice :)

poparamiro
12-03-2009, 00:20
New graphics player (http://vr-zone.com/forums/403168/new-graphics-player-onboard-to-fight-nvidia-and-amd.html) onboard to fight Nvidia and AMD

mascotzel
20-03-2009, 12:40
ATI Catalyst 9.3 (http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/bericht_ati_catalyst_93/) (@computerbase.de)

poparamiro
21-03-2009, 02:36
ATI & Intel Unite (http://gpucafe.com/2009/03/ati-intel-unite-against-nvidias-physx/) against Nvidia's PhysX
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=39040&stc=1&d=1237599388

gaby91
21-03-2009, 18:05
http://gpucafe.com/2009/03/modern-graphics-card-failure-rates/

dev
23-03-2009, 14:18
ATI loveste in 9800gt. HD4750 anuntat si listat (http://www.techpowerup.com/88977/Radeon_HD_4750_Gets_First_Listing.html). Pentru un produs inferior lui 4850 ma asteptam sa fie mai ieftin.

dr_dream
26-03-2009, 16:41
primul review pt HD 4890 (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=ro&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.pconline.com.cn%2Farticle%2F23 9516.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=ro)

CQSTELUSH
26-03-2009, 16:53
ATI loveste in 9800gt. HD4750 anuntat si listat (http://www.techpowerup.com/88977/Radeon_HD_4750_Gets_First_Listing.html). Pentru un produs inferior lui 4850 ma asteptam sa fie mai ieftin.
Ce frumos e cooler-ul! :D

xplaur
28-03-2009, 08:45
Pai nu lovise in 9800GT, cu HD4830?

Pishky
02-04-2009, 07:16
gtx 275 prezentata de guru3d

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-275-review-test/

lucassp
02-04-2009, 07:41
ATI Radeon HD 4890: 1GHz Conquered!@Xbitlabs (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4890.html)


So, what can we say in conclusion to our first ATI Radeon HD 4890 test session? The “refresh” of the RV770 was definitely worth it. Reborn as RV790 the good old GPU got a second breath.

dr_dream
02-04-2009, 11:36
ASUS EAH4890 TOP Voltage Tweak (http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1537) + NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275

Artanis
02-04-2009, 12:52
ATI Radeon HD 4890 vs. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3539)

The 4890 tends to look better at lower resolutions while the GTX 275 can be more competitive at high resolutions.

Monstru
02-04-2009, 13:16
Mda....parerea mea (http://lab501.ro/stiri/nvidia-lanseaza-gtx-275)despre GTX 275 in lipsa acesteia....deocamdata...

Monstru
07-04-2009, 23:33
Este o pasare? Un avion? O sticla de ketch-up? Neeaah...Este primul GTX 275 (http://lab501.ro/stiri/gtx-275-in-arome-de-primavara-2) care isi face aparitia la noi. Lucrez de zor la review, ba chiar astept niste intariri :)

diak
08-04-2009, 20:19
A aparut Catalyst 9.4 (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp)

Monstru
08-04-2009, 20:20
Si uite asa Monstru testeaza GTX 275 vs HD 4890 numai cu driveri finali nu cu BETA. Nice :D

diak
08-04-2009, 20:32
O mica mare rugaminte: poti sa-ti faci timp de un versus cu un driver mai vechi (preferabil 8.12) si 9.4?

Monstru
08-04-2009, 20:46
Mi-ar face placere sa fac asta, dar din pacate am foarte mult de lucru la review, nu stiu daca apuc.

Monstru
10-04-2009, 16:27
RivaTuner 2.24 nu ofera suport nativ pentru 4890. Daca vreti sa utilizati acest program pentru a overclocka 4890-ul sau pentru a-i modifica turatia ventilatorului, puteti gasi CFG-ul pentru 4890 (http://lab501.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rivatuner-4890cfg.zip) pe aria noasta de download (http://lab501.ro/download).

poparamiro
11-04-2009, 11:12
ATI partners can and will make a Radeon HD4890 X2 (http://vr-zone.com/forums/416776/ati-partners-can-and-will-make-a-radeon-hd4890-x2.html)
Deja ma gindesc cum dau cu ele (nu de pereti :rotf:)

Paradox
11-04-2009, 13:25
Larrabee Details Surface at IDF Beijing 2009 (http://en.expreview.com/2009/04/11/larrabee-details-surface-at-idf-beijing-2009.html) Big ass die

Rumors: NVIDIA GT300 Set to Tape Out in June (http://en.expreview.com/2009/04/11/rumors-nvidia-gt300-set-to-tape-out-in-june.html) Sunt curios daca va fi o noua arhitectura sau doar un die shrink

ATI Partners Will Try Out A Radeon HD 4890 X2 (http://en.expreview.com/2009/04/11/ati-partner-will-try-out-a-radeon-hd-4890-x2.html) Era destul de previzibil ca vor apare si placi dual gpu

lucassp
21-04-2009, 07:47
Caustic Graphics: Hardware Raytracing | Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3549)

poparamiro
23-04-2009, 02:53
nVidia's GT300 specifications revealed (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/22/nvidias-gt300-specifications-revealed---its-a-cgpu!.aspx)

mascotzel
24-04-2009, 15:18
4770: mai buna ca 9800GT, aprox 95% din performanta unui 4850 (overall,diferenta in test variaza intre 1-11%),potential bun de overclocking,rece

First Review of Radeon HD 4770: $99 Monster (http://en.expreview.com/2009/04/24/first-review-of-radeon-hd-4770-99-monster.html) (@Expreview)

Monstru
24-04-2009, 15:44
Deci sa inteleg ca 4830 tocmai a devenit o placa inutila, corect? :)

poparamiro
24-04-2009, 19:37
RV870 specs leaked (http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/news/34-amdati-grafikkarten/409-rv870-vorrausichtliche-spezifikationen-aufgetaucht)

Artanis
01-05-2009, 07:27
New Revolution: ATI Radeon HD 4770 Graphics Card Review (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4770.html)

Ionutz_r08
01-05-2009, 16:19
AnandTech - Overclocking Extravaganza: Radeon HD 4890 To The Max (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3555&p=2)

mascotzel
04-05-2009, 19:49
Sapphire 4890 Atomic (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd4890_atomic/) (@OCC)

Paradox
06-05-2009, 19:42
ASUS EAH4890 TOP w/ Super ML Capacitor @ techPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH4890_TOP_SuperML/)

What's next, super duper uber mega ultra bobine sau "2 ounces of copper" a la Gigeabait si in placile video?:confused:

LE: Ups, se pare ca Jijibait deja au implementat "risipa de cupru (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/WebPage/udv_090306_sc/index.html)" & bobine cu miez de ferita si in placile video. My bad:D

Pishky
09-05-2009, 19:29
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/17623-geforce-gts-250-roundup-asus-gigabyte-sparkle-evga.html
round-up de gts 250


nu stiu daca s-a mai pus
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/24/ati-radeon-5870-and-5870x2-specs-revealed.aspx

edit: am pus direct poza ca sa va mai economisesc din timp

mascotzel
09-05-2009, 21:09
ASUS EAH4890 TOP w/ Super ML Capacitor @ techPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH4890_TOP_SuperML/)

What's next, super duper uber mega ultra bobine sau "2 ounces of copper" a la Gigeabait si in placile video?:confused:

LE: Ups, se pare ca Jijibait deja au implementat "risipa de cupru (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/WebPage/udv_090306_sc/index.html)" & bobine cu miez de ferita si in placile video. My bad:D
citeste review-ul de pe hardwarecanucks si ai sa vezi si efectele

DeDeRa
09-05-2009, 21:17
Nu e mare diferenta mascotel, cel putin eu nu vad, zi tu mai multe.
Nu e mare diferenta de consum, parca 20w, iar la overclock placa Gigi duce cel mai putin. Cu temperaturile sta destul de bine totusi.
Eu am vazut gtx 285 ud (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=3100), de care ma simt, clar atras. Ma intreb cat consuma mai putin si cat duce oc, ca temperaturile sigur sunt mai mici, macar un pic.

mascotzel
10-05-2009, 08:44
e destul cat sa fie in afara unei marje de eroare

Paradox
10-05-2009, 13:10
citeste review-ul de pe hardwarecanucks si ai sa vezi si efectele

La ce review anume te referi?

DeDeRa
10-05-2009, 13:40
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/17623-geforce-gts-250-roundup-asus-gigabyte-sparkle-evga.html

Se refera ca Gigi cu UD consuma mai putin.
Eu sunt curios ce stie GTX 285 cu UD.

Baubaul
12-05-2009, 15:08
Props to forum old-timer Cowie for submitting this one. Chinese based Expreview got their hands on the much discussed single PCB based GeForce GTX 295 From Inno3D. It's a lot of info, courtesy of expreview of course:

Rumors on NVIDIA’s single-PCB reference GTX295 where unveiled in March, and Inno3D has is showing their GTX295 Platinum which is the first card to adopt single-PCB design.


The 'standard (if you can call it that) GTX 295 already had the honor of being the strongest 3D gaming graphics card as the GeForce GTX295 features two 55nm GT200 chips, 1792MB (896*2) GDDR3 memory, 896-bit (448*2) memory interface, 289W TDP, 1.4 billion*2 transistors, 240*2 stream processors, 80*2 Texture Map Units, 28*2 ROPs, and core/shader/memory clock of 576/1242/1998MHz.

This new single-PCB GTX295 keeps the same specs as before.

The previous version of GeForce GTX295 adopted dual-PCB design with PCB code P656, the new GTX295 will employ single-PCB design known as P658. The length of PCB board remains as 267mm, and the cooler sports dual slots and single fan. You’ll find the two GT200 chips on both sides of PCB, and one NF200 and two NVIO2 chips are placed in the middle part.

Each GPU has 3-phase power supply, which means 6-phase power supply in total. Due to the limited space, Inno3D has used a DrMOS chip for this card.

Inno3D’s new GTX295 uses Hynix H5RS5223CFR NOC GDDR3 memory which actually works at 999MHz though the theoretic frequency is 1000MHz. The 14 DRAM chips build up 1792MB memory size.

BTW photo's showing up at this moment, tells me that we can expect a launch at Computex, or at least some demo's early next month.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/singlepcb-gtx295-from-inno3d-surfaced/

DeDeRa
12-05-2009, 18:57
Demential... tulai Doamne...

Paradox
13-05-2009, 12:01
Intel Larrabee Die Zoomed in (http://www.techpowerup.com/94076/Intel_Larrabee_Die_Zoomed_in.html):mischeif:

Pishky
13-05-2009, 19:18
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-n260gtx-lightning-1792-mb-review/

poparamiro
16-05-2009, 18:14
Nvidia G300 has got taped out (http://vr-zone.com/forums/432042/nvidia-g300-has-got-taped-out.html)

Coco
16-05-2009, 21:40
Cel mai bine-facut GTX260 vine de la Zotac (http://en.expreview.com/2009/05/16/zotac-china-non-ref-gtx260-souped-up-edition-available.html#more-3542)...

Coco
17-05-2009, 19:00
Intel Confirms 'Larrabee' First Half 2010; No Delay (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-larrabee-gpgpu-gpu-cpu,7815.html#xtor=RSS-181)

mimed
25-05-2009, 13:35
http://www.matbe.com/actualites/67391/nouvelle-radeon-chez-ati-la-4730/

Coco
26-05-2009, 11:48
Gainward going back to being Nvidia exclusive? (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=26740&catid=6)

tonito
26-05-2009, 12:02
o firma castiga ceva daca este exclusiva doar pt un producator de placi video ?, sau alte componente?

poparamiro
28-05-2009, 13:47
New 3DMark2001 monster card (http://vr-zone.com/forums/437007/asus-readying-4-gb-dual-gtx285-monster-card.html) :)

dev
28-05-2009, 14:29
Scad preturile la 4850 sub 100$. (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=26807&catid=2)




Powercolor lanseaza 4730. O placuta plasata convenabil intre 4670 si 4770 la 80 de dolari.

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...ProductID=5733

sh_ol
28-05-2009, 14:56
nu merge primul link.
al doilea cred ca zice acelasi lucru dar nu in engleza.
please fix it. ;)

mascotzel
28-05-2009, 15:04
scaderi palpabile de preturi la noi la 4850 PALIT (http://www.pcgarage.ro/cauta/4850+palit),intre 420-500LEI
la fel GTS250, PALIT (http://www.pcgarage.ro/cauta/palit+GTS250) si gainward (http://www.pcgarage.ro/cauta/gainward+GTS250), 460 /560

asta e veste buna

de asemenea ,4770 (http://www.pcgarage.ro/cauta/4770+radeon) a coborat sub pragul de 400LEI,ajungand si aproape de 365

magazinul e orientativ

dev
28-05-2009, 15:10
Problema e ca 4770 nu e in stoc si nici n-o sa fie prea curind de aici rezultind ieftinirea la 4850. Eu astept si preturi sub 400 ron.:)

Raptor
28-05-2009, 15:12
Cand au de gand sa scoata 4770 cu un cooler full?

Dragos Saraolu
28-05-2009, 18:04
Au aparut pe afara, in 7-10 zile ar trebui sa fie si la noi dar sunt mai scumpe decat prima varianta aparuta.

Raptor
28-05-2009, 19:02
Cam cat mai scumpe?

Pishky
28-05-2009, 21:51
New 3DMark2001 monster card (http://vr-zone.com/forums/437007/asus-readying-4-gb-dual-gtx285-monster-card.html) :)

ceva mai multe poze

http://www.guru3d.com/news/asus-working-on-dual-geforce-gtx-285-with-4gb-/

CQSTELUSH
28-05-2009, 22:03
That's one hell of a video card...

Artanis
04-06-2009, 07:59
AMD Evergreen: 40nm DirectX 11 GPU Silicon Arrives (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3573)

Coco
04-06-2009, 21:53
ASUS EAH4890 Formula with F1 design influences (http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9415.html)

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=8016

Coco
08-06-2009, 21:40
AMD Plans Price Cut For HD 4800 Series In Q3 (http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-plans-price-cut-for-hd-4800-series-in-q3/7173.html?doc=7173)


Price of HD 4890 card will be lowered from US$249 to US$199 while HD 4870 will be priced at US$149, down from US$199. Lastly, HD 4850 which we already saw the prices plummeting due to HD 4770 shortages will go below US$100 this time.

Coco
09-06-2009, 11:38
NVIDIA GT300 Targets 225W TDP (http://en.expreview.com/2009/06/09/nvidia-gt300-targets-225w-tdp.html)


As we reported, G300 will be based on 40nm manufacturing process, featuring 2.4 billion transistors, 495mm2 package, 512 shaders, 512-bit memory interface, GDDR5 and core/shader/memory clock of 700/1600/1100MHz. The TDP was rummored to be 300W, e.g. one 8pin and one 6pin power connector.
But according to Brightsideofnews (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/6/8/nvidia-gt300-targets-225w-tdp.aspx), the GT300 part targets a thermal range of 225W, and should come with two 6pin power connectors. It’s a mystery how NVIDIA manages to control the power consumption so properly, but if what we hear is true, it’s something good for the users.

Coco
09-06-2009, 11:44
ATI to be first with DirectX 11 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14133/34/)


If all goes well, Nvidia might have its GT300 DirectX 11 capable card in very late 2009 but it’s almost certain that ATI will be the first to launch DirectX 11 hardware.

Coco
09-06-2009, 11:56
GTS 250 is selling like mad - Great success for Nvidia (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14131/34/)

Renaming the G92b-based Geforce 9800GTX+ to Geforce GTS 250 was one of the best things Nvidia did in 2009. The rename worked and everyone wants to buy Geforce GTS 250 as this name definitely sounds better than the old 9800GTX+.

The hard reality is that consumers are too naive to notice the tricks of Nvidia's mighty marketing machine, but as we said, Nvidia doesn’t care much as the strategy works.

As mai adauga pe lista motivelor si tactica Nvidia de a nu trimite sample-uri de GTS 250 publicatiilor corecte (hardwarecanuks, hardocp), sau celor care nu le-au cantat in struna (anandtech) pana in acel moment. Iar Nvidia a avut succes... :vommit:

triplu_z
09-06-2009, 13:13
Din moment ce aceasta GTS 250 este mai buna* si mai ieftina decat 9800 GTX nu prea vad care ar fi problema,mai ales ca am avut parte de teste si un review autohton.


*din anumite puncte de vedere

Coco
09-06-2009, 14:19
Cel mai ieftin GTS 250 de 512 MB e 445 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gainward/geforce-gts-250-512mb-ddr3-256-bit/), iar un 4850 cu racire buna si silentioasa, plus overclock-ata, e 405 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/palit/ati-radeon-hd4850-sonic-512mb-ddr3-256-bit/). Cel mai ieftin GTS 250 de 1024 de MB e 530 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/palit/geforce-gts-250-1gb-ddr3-256-bit/), iar cel mai ieftin 4870 e 595 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/powercolor/ati-radeon-hd4870-512mb-ddr5-256-bit/). Eu spun ca de fiecare data varianta ATI isi merita mai mult banii... la fel cum la 675 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gainward/geforce-gtx-260-golden-sample-896mb-ddr3-448-bit/) Gainward GeForce GTX 260 Golden Sample pe 55 de nm cu oc la 625 MHz e optimul calitate/pret pentru tot mainstream-ul...

Pe de alta parte insa, GTS 250 e acum mult muuult mai ieftin fata de preturile nesimtite de la lansare (care au fost considerate de unii ca fiind bune totusi)... in opinia mea GTS 250 nu a constituit niciun moment pe niciun segment de pret o varianta optima, poate doar pentru fanii Nvidia sau pentru naivi...

DeDeRa
09-06-2009, 19:26
Cred ca va fi o placa foarte reusita GT300. Dar ce TDP are un GTX285? Si un GTX295?

Coco, mie nu mi se pare un optim calitate/pret GTX265, in conditiile in care un HD4870 e sub 600lei si performanta e aproximativ egala, poate un piculet mai buna ptr nVidia. E vorba de acelasi duel ca intre HD4850 vs 9800GTX+ ... alege in functie de gust propriu.

PowerColor introduces New Low Cost PCS HD4730 GPU (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/powercolor-introduces-cost-pcs-hd4730-gpu/)

le: GTX 285 are TDP 183w. GTX 295 are TDP 289w.
Ciudat este insa ca pe undeva citisem ca GT300 va avea acelasi TDP ca GTX 285.

raresvintea
09-06-2009, 19:46
posesor de gts 250, stiind ca este la baza doar un 9800gtx+ rebranduit, dar am luato pt racirea modificata, avand si racire pe vrm. varinata de la msi gts 250(cea scumpa)

nu am luat ati pt ca in trecut am avut adevarate dureri de cap cu driverele amd-ati. sunt foarte multumit de placa, silentioasa etc.

in comparatie cu 4850, cu o racire modificata intr-un test castiga amd, in altul nvidia. oricum pt a avea o placa "buna" in cele 2 cazuri dar in special in cazul lui 4850 trebuie sa aiba o alta solutie de racire!

eu sunt multumit de placa si mi se pare ca nvidia are o tactica mai bunicica in sensul ca la racirile stock sunt decente in comparatie cu ati (vezi 4850) si drivere stabile pt single card.

Monstru
09-06-2009, 19:51
Uite o parere sincera, personala, care vine de la un consumator normal. :yes:

Acum sa vezi ce o sa iti sara fanaticii de mai sus in cap, cum ca 4850 e bune, e reci, e stabile, e silentioase, driverii e cei mai geniali, si alte e :)

DeDeRa
09-06-2009, 20:05
Noroc ca nu-s ca cei pomenti.
Eu am zis mereu ca e un duel ce tine de gust, de oferta, etc. Ma refer la duelul 4850 - 9800GTX+ si 4870 - GTX 265. Cumperi ce iti place mai mult...

triplu_z
10-06-2009, 07:45
Era vorba despre GTX260 216sp* (265 nu cred ca exista) ... care nu are competitor in segmentul ei.Un minunat "Top that !" adresat de nVidia bajetilor de la Amd/Ati.


*tot pe la 600 lei este


4850 e bune, e reci, e stabile, e silentioase, driverii e cei mai geniali, si alte e :)

Ie cel mai bun lucru dupa venirea lu` Christos ! :yes:

Dragos Saraolu
10-06-2009, 09:22
Eu am tot incercat placile video din segmentul asta de pret pe piata, concluzia mea ar fi:
- intre GTS250 si HD4850 as declara castigator HD-ul ca performanta dar trebuie sa ai mare grija la ce varianta cumperi, racirea iti poate crea probleme, ori este zgomotoasa si raceste bine, ori este silentioasa si placa se incinge ca dracu, personal as lua cel mai ieftin HD4850 si as schimba racirea.
- GTX260 216 SP, frecvente standard, indiferent ca este pe 55 sau 65 nm se poate compara cu orice HD4870 512 MB, pierde la setari medii datorita frecventelor default si castiga la setari high datorita cantitatii de memorie, ambele costa in jur de 650 lei.
- in jurul lui 800 lei gasim GTX260 216 SP, overclockata de obicei, 55 nm, sau HD4870 1GB, ambele se comporta ~ la fel, nu cred ca poti declara una din ele castigoare decat la o diferenta foarte mica.
Pe GTX260 gasim cea mai silentioasa racire aparuta pe placile video in ultimul timp, placa va sta la 85 grade in load si in functie de conditiile de racire din carcasa si temperatura mediului ambiant putem avea ventilatorul la turatii de la 50% in sus. De regula la 24 grade ambient si o racire decenta in carcasa te joci cu ventilatorul la maxim 65%, nu este chiar silent dar este departe de a fi deranjant, ceva de genul unui ventilator de 120 mm pe la 1000 rot/min. Sub 24 grade ambient poti sa nu mai atingi acele 85 grade si atunci este o adevarata placere sa te joci.

triplu_z
10-06-2009, 09:33
GTX 260 216 SP porneste de pe la suma de ~650-670 RON,peste aceasta suma gasim variantele OC de la BFG,sau SC/SSC/etc de la EVGA.
Varianta Palit in schimb GTX260 216sp Sonic cu frecvente marite substantial costa aproximativ 680 Ron si in opinia mea ar trebui sa bata binisor un 4870 1gb.

Spre exemplu eu am avut de ales intre gtx260 216sp si Sapphire 4890 si am ales GTX-ul pt simplul motiv ca arata a placa video.Constructie ce denota un aspect high-end,sobra,racire buna(desi a necesitat mici retusuri) si silentioasa,pret mult mai mic si .... PhysX

P.S. am incercat din rasputeri sa nu mentionez nimic despre driverii ATi insa nu ma pot abtine ... ati catalyst a fost unul din motivele pt care am ales nVidia.

Coco
12-06-2009, 00:37
Ma bucur ca dupa 7 posturi (unele argumentate, altul la deruta) imi dati dreptate... si nu, cel mai ieftin GTX 260 216 SP e acel Gainward la 675 ron, culmea, si oc-at...

In alta ordine de idei... Game Developers Likely to Utilize Performance Boosting Features of DirectX 11 (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20090611123755_Game_Developers_Likely_to_Utilize_P erformance_Boosting_Features_of_DirectX_11_First__ ATI.html)


“If I was making a decision about [which DirectX 11 features to implement first], I would go for three things fairly quickly,” said Mr. Huddy.

Those things are, apparently, multi-threading support, compute shaders and tessellation.

Multi-Threading: +20% Performance

Post Processing: +25% Performance

Tessellation: When Performance Meets Quality

Tessellation is not exactly a performance boosting feature, but it can generate highly-detailed objects using less resources than using traditional technology; therefore, either game developers will be able to offer better graphics, or they will be able to render existing graphics with higher speed.

“After the post-processing work, I would probably switch to tessellation. I would use […] patch approximation to smooth out jagged objects, things like pipes, which are supposed to have smooth form, use N-patches there. Or I will be even more aggressive and take something like parallax occlusion mapping, which is a rather attractive kind of trick for improving the quality of pixels within an object. I would instead extrude the geometry and load a parallax occlusion height map and then would generate much improved silhouettes using the tessellator,” said Mr. Huddy.

Obviously, to use tessellation, developers will have to rely on DirectX 11 or, at least, hardware with tessellation support. Still, tessellation is a yet another advantage of DX11.

poparamiro
12-06-2009, 00:54
Prima data cind am vazut o forma de teselatie (TRUFORM) a fost pe Radeon 8500, era si un mic demo cu ceva modele de Quake 2, nu stiu de ce au lungit-o atita pina sa o implementeze la nivel mare.

Pishky
12-06-2009, 09:35
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-single-pcb-review/1

lucassp
15-06-2009, 07:50
Prima data cind am vazut o forma de teselatie (TRUFORM) a fost pe Radeon 8500, era si un mic demo cu ceva modele de Quake 2, nu stiu de ce au lungit-o atita pina sa o implementeze la nivel mare.

Teselarea exista in Xbox 360 de ceva vreme. Zvonurile spun ca nVidia "s-a opus" introducerii teselarii in DX10 in timp ce ATi o avea deja implementata in pastila de siliciu (R600).

Coco
15-06-2009, 23:39
NVIDIA Announces its First 40 nm, DirectX 10.1 Compliant GPUs (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?96871) - doar mobile deocamdata... ma distreaza ca dupa ce au hulit directx 10.1 de vreo cel putin 1 an, acum il adopta si ei, la mai putin de 5 luni de trecerea la directx 11...

http://www.elitebastards.com/hanners/nvidia/gt200-m/slide04.jpg

http://www.elitebastards.com/hanners/nvidia/gt200-m/slide05.jpg

Scuzati calitatea capturilor de ecran, nu-mi apartin, ca ar fi iesit mai bune :D GTS 250M, daca se va gasi pe laptopuri relativ ieftine (zona 30-40 de milioane), va constitui in mod sigur o alegere extrem de inspirata. in topul baietilor astora (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html) a aterizat pe 18 la ghici deocamdata...

Coco
15-06-2009, 23:55
Sapphire Radeon HD 4730 pictured (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=27195&catid=2) - 55 de nm, RV770LE, 128 de biti, DDR5, 80 de euro - un fel de 4830 cu DDR5, si destul de probabil inca un best buy in tabara ATI... asta daca nu cumva o sa scada si mai mult preturile la 4850/4770...

In plus, daca acest (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?96859) zvon e adevarat, ATI va mai lansa inca o placa, pozitionata intre 4850 si 4870 ca pret, si denumita HD 4790 - un RV790 castrat la 600 de MHz (si deci cu reale posibilitati de overclock) si cu bus-ul tot de 256 de biti... inca un best buy (din nou, foarte probabil)...

Se cam aglomereaza tabloul produselor ATI pe un segment ingust de preturi... cu aceste doua lansari cred ca ATI intentioneaza sa elimine 4850 si 4870 (plus 4890) in curand de pe piata, facand loc in toamna noii serii 5xxx...

Coco
16-06-2009, 00:03
Asus' 4GB Mars dual-GPU card up for pre-order, costs an arm, half a leg (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=27200&catid=2)

If money is no problem then we, or better yet, Asus, has one more thing you can spend it on - the limited edition Mars graphics card which boasts no less than 4GB of GDDR3 memory, and two GT200 GPUs summing up to 480 Processing Cores, all one one PCB.

Seen below, the dual-GPU MARS/2DI/4GD3 has a 2x512-bit memory interface, features GPU, shader, and memory clocks of 648, 1476 and 2484 MHz, respectively, and is now available for pre-order at UK's Scan with a price tag of (brace yourself) £1,030.98 or about $1,680 / 1,218 Euro. Any takers?

mascotzel
16-06-2009, 09:43
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14223/1/



According to what we have heard ATI is playing fair on this one, as it has promised a US $99 card that they simply could not deliver in volume due to low yields and high demand. In order to live up to its promise ATI has simply adjusted the price of the HD 4850 in order to keep its customers, if you want US $99 card, you can have the HD 4850.


poate n-or fi ATI cele mai bune,dar sunt motivul pt care concurenta vinde considerabil mai ieftin

Coco
25-06-2009, 11:46
Nvidia desktop refresh is DirectX 10.1 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14383/34/)

We've heard GT210 and GT220 brands associated with the new products, but there is not much we can confirm at press time.

This refresh should be coming in end of summer or early September time and naturally, 40nm means higher clocks and less thermal dissipation.

Artanis
29-06-2009, 07:57
AMD DirectX 11 White Paper Released (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1001/1/)

Coco
30-06-2009, 21:54
AMD to Support NVIDIA’s CUDA Technology? (http://en.expreview.com/2009/06/30/amd-to-support-nvidias-cuda-technology.html) - vrajeala Nvidia preluata tembel de diversi

AMD doesn't want a price war with Nvidia (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14438/34/)

"Are we interested in winning share by losing money on every GPU we ship? No," Bergman said. "We're not going to engage in that and we haven't had to."

GeForce G 210 and GT 220 Surface (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?98156) - 40 nm entry level doar in octombrie, mainstream si high-end la anul

Coco
09-07-2009, 23:29
AMD RS880 IGP 15 Percent Faster (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?98801)

While technically it is derived from the AMD RV610 core with some tweaked clock-speeds, it will get the brand name ATI Radeon HD 4200. With 1800 points in 3DMark06, this IGP is as powerful as GeForce 6800 GT a high-end graphics accelerator from the DirectX 9 generation. The chipset will make a formal debut this August.
NVIDIA 40 nm GeForce G210 and GeForce GT 220 Now Official (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?98865)

The GeForce G210 has 16 processor cores and a 589 MHz CPU clock speed; that's paired with 512 MB of DDR2 memory with a 64-bit interface and 500 MHz clock speed. Its shaders run at 1402 MHz. As for the NVIDIA GeForce GT 220, it has 48 processor cores and a 615 MHz clock speed, paired with 1 GB of GDDR3 memory with a 790 MHz clock and a 128-bit interface. It has a slightly slower shaders clock speed of 1335 MHz. Neither of the two cards is expected to be available directly to consumers, both offerings are marked as OEM products and meant to be entry-level options in pre-built PCs.

Coco
10-07-2009, 12:13
Nvidia retail DX10.1 comes in September (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14607/34/)

With Nvidia, things are quite clear. The first DirectX 11 chip is in super high end, something that we all call GT300, even that might not be the real code name. Nvidia's desktop 40nm refresh is a minor facelift of existing chips, all done in 40nm and don’t expect any miracles.

They should be marginally better than the current 55nm generation and that’s it. We wonder if Nvidia will force the guys behind Assassin’s Creed to enable DirectX 10.1 again (http://www.pixelrage.ro/news/Fara-DirectX-10.1-pentru-Assassins-Creed-6487.html), as its been disabled for a while, at least we believe so.
AMD: DirectX 11 Radeons Pleasantly Fast (http://en.expreview.com/2009/07/10/amd-directx-11-radeons-pleasantly-fast.html)

AMD plans to launch Evergreen series DirectX 11 graphics card by the end of 2009, and hopefully promote it for the release of Microsoft’s Windows 7 on Oct 22nd.
Richard Huddy, AMD’s head of the Developer Relations Department, said in a talk with PCgameshardware, “I would say we don’t make money by delivering slow hardware. Our expectation is that we’ll give you a really pleasant surprise this year when we ship our DX11 hardware.”
After that he demonstrated the advantages of Hardware Tessellation and DirectX 11 Compute Shaders on DirectX 11 ready graphics cards.

The Evergreen card with a dual-slot cooling solution is, according to Huddy, neither an entry-level nor a high-end product - it’s supposed to be part of the product array above US$100.
Asadar, s-ar parea ca vom avea parte la sfarsitul anului doar de placi video de la ATI in zona mainstream directx 11...

Coco
15-07-2009, 02:06
AMD: ATI Radeon HD 4770 X2 Is Great Concept Idea - AMD Lets Partners to Create Dual-Chip ATI Radeon HD 4770 Graphics Cards (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20090708181719_AMD_ATI_Radeon_HD_4770_X2_Is_Great_ Concept_Idea.html) :eek: - adicatelea ei nici 4770-ul simplu nu l-au lansat calumea pe piata (foarte putine fiind cu adevarat disponibile), si deja se gandesc la un x2... :insane:

ATI to finalize DirectX 11 RV870 in August (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14609/34/)

The real launch and mass production should happen in very late Q3, probably in late September, and real availability is expected in October.

From this point, it looks like that ATI might have a month or two head start, as Nvidia's „GT300“ should show its face in very late Q4 2009.

poparamiro
17-07-2009, 19:33
Zotac Beefs-Up GeForce GTX 200 with 15+3 Phase VRM Design (http://en.expreview.com/2009/07/17/zotac-unveils-15-phase-gtx260-accelerator.html#more-4347)

himself
17-07-2009, 20:01
wow! foarte chipes PCBul asta!

DeDeRa
17-07-2009, 20:04
Nu o aparea si un GTX 285 d'asta chipes? :D

off: Cat duce un GTX 285 ne-voltmodat? Eu am dat in al meu 710/1600/2900. Am vazut ca OCX @ BFG si FTW @ EVGA duc mult. Altele? Macar eu am si racire ca lumea.

le: Care ar fi diferenta intre un GTX 285 cu memoriile 0.8ns si unul cu memoriile 0.7ns?

Dragos Saraolu
17-07-2009, 21:06
Imparte tu 2000 la cate ns are memoria si afli singur.

DeDeRa
17-07-2009, 21:32
http://www.evomag.ro/produs--EVGA-Placa-Video-e-GeForce-GTX-285-(0.7ns)--37340.html
http://www.evomag.ro/produs--EVGA-Placa-Video-e-GeForce-GTX-285--28000.html

Am vazut cateva modele de GTX 285 cu memorii 0.7ns, printre care cateva EVGA, ceva Sparkle si atat. In rest, toate 0.8ns. E vorba de altceva aici...
Nu inteleg care e diferenta? E mai overclockabil? Mai ... nu stiu :D

le: 2000 / 0.7 = 2857
2000 / 0.8 = 2500

Dar care e baiul?

Coco
18-07-2009, 09:01
@DeDeRa Pastreaza bre banii si ia la toamna/iarna o placa directx11, ca oricum nu mai e mult pana atunci, iar tehnologia promite...

DirectX 11 Compute Shader: Three times faster than DX10.1 due to Local Data Share (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689924/DirectX-11-Compute-Shader-Three-times-faster-than-DX101-due-to-Local-Data-Share/News/)

AMD's Developer Relations boss Richard Huddy explains the mode of operation of Ambient Occlusion - the DirectX 11 Compute Shader is said to provide up to three times the performance possible with DirectX 10.1.

Coco
21-07-2009, 18:00
Mushkin's First ATI Radeon Graphics Card Pictured (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?99788) - un 4850 cu nitel oc si cooler AC eftin

matose
21-07-2009, 20:20
Uite si pretul din Romania: http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/mushkin/radeon-hd4850-ultimatefx-series-512mb-ddr3-256-bit/

Disponibilitate incepand de maine ;)!

Coco
24-07-2009, 16:12
GIGABYTE Silent Cell HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 (GV-R485SL-1GI) @ futurelooks (http://www.futurelooks.com/gigabyte-silent-cell-hd-4850-1gb-gv-r485sl-1gi-video-card-review/4/) si @ cpu3d.com (http://www.cpu3d.com/review/8002-14/gigabyte-silent-cell-radeon-hd-4850-1gb-gddr3/verdict-and-conclusion.html) - este vorba de noul sistem de racire Gigabyte Silent Cell + UD3 pentru placi video. A fost testat si de catre Xtrempc in numarul din iunie, si s-a comportat foarte bine ca temperaturi pentru un 4850 fierbinte. De asemenea, PCB-ul este schimbat (si as putea spune imbunatatit), o parte a vrm-ului fiind mutata in stanga pastilei.

Acelasi sistem de racire va fi folosit si pe 4770 (GV-R477SL-1GI (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,686540/Computex-Gigabyte-presents-passive-HD-4770-and-9800-GT/News/))

Coco
24-07-2009, 16:30
ATI to launch DirectX 11 GPUs in seven weeks (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/7/22/ati-to-launch-directx-11-gpus-in-seven-weeks.aspx) - s-ar parea ca ATI sunt pe val... pardon, pe flower powder... sevrajul incepand cu 1x septembrie 2009...

ATI will catapult not one, but rather a complete DirectX 11 line-up into the orbit, ranging from $50 to the high end parts in their respective three-figure pricing brackets. Just like the Radeon 4000 series, consisting out of 4400, 4500, 4600, 4700 and 4800 parts, the new Radeon series will consist out of entry-level [Hemlock], mainstream [Cedar, Redwood], performance [Juniper] and high-end part [Cypress]. When it comes to codenames, you'll notice that all of these parts have codenames from plants, with some belonging into the same family [Cedar, Juniper, Redwood] Note that not all of these parts will be launched on the same day. Some parts might have to wait until Holiday season to get them in OEM-level numbers, but all in all - this is the strongest line-up ATI had in years. We might even dare to say strongest line-up ever from any GPU manufacturer.

Coco
27-07-2009, 22:23
Pe sistemul ,,Daca voi nu ma vreti, eu va vreau"... GeForce GTS 240 Spotted in OEM Channels (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?100238)

Apparently NVIDIA wants to continue development of the GeForce GTS 240, at least for its OEM customers, if not AIC partners that cater to the retail consumer segment. The GeForce GTS 240 reference design accelerator is in accordance with the schematics that surfaced back in February, and maintains a single-slot design overall. Under the hood is the 55 nm G92b graphics processor with 112 shader processors, a 256-bit GDDR3 memory interface, 1 GB of memory, and reference clock speeds that match that of GeForce 9800 GT OC: 675/1620/1100 (core/shader/memory). The card supports 2-way SLI, and should be priced in the sub $130 space.
Mai precis, OEM-urile GTS 240 vor ajunge in compuri de-a gata gen Apple, ai caror utilizatori se vor minuna de capabilitatile nemaintalnite ale acestora...

Coco
31-07-2009, 18:57
First simple test on ATI HD4860 (http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6691&pageid=5263) - desi Palit/Gainward nu mai au nicio treaba cu ATI, pcb-ul acestei placi imi aduce aminte de recent incheiatul parteneriat

ATI Radeon HD 4860, based on RV790 GT core, will have 640 stream processors clocked at 700MHz. It features 750MHz of memory and 512MB GDDR5 memory.

Additional Details Regarding ATI’s DirectX 11 Family Revealed - ATI RV800 “Evergreen” Family Takes Shape (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20090729231441_Additional_Details_Regarding_ATI_s_ DirectX_11_Family_Revealed.html) - lansare probabila in octombrie

Cypress – dual-chip flagship graphics solutions powered by two RV870 chips (originally known as R800);
Juniper – single-chip performance-mainstream graphics solution(s) based on RV870 chip;
Redwood – single chip mainstream graphics solution(s) based on RV830 chip;
Cedar – single chip entry-level graphics solution(s) based on RV810 chip;
Hemlock – unknown.

mascotzel
04-08-2009, 19:08
e platforma bre,nu placa video
:D

Coco
04-08-2009, 21:36
las' domle' ca de la driver am aflat... :D Chiar, ar fi buna o sectiune suplimentara Nvidia?

BFG Tech Announces Limited Edition Self-Contained Liquid Cooled Graphics Cards (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?100887) - GTX 285 si 295 - dracu' gol, maica... merg cu apa si nu fac scurt!

quintus
06-08-2009, 15:36
One reader named Firewings [CCG] at Expreview forum (Chinese version) has figured out the way to get SLI support for its Asus Maximus Formula motherboard based on Intel X38 chipset, with one NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT and one GeForce GTX 260 graphics card.

Expreview.com has contacted the reader and run a quick test for validation. We chose Intel QX9650 OC (4GHz) CPU, Asus Maximus II Formular motherboard, one Yeston GeForce GTX260+ 896GD3, and one Galaxy GeForce GTX 260+ graphics card for the test.



link-ul mai jos;)

mascotzel
06-08-2009, 15:52
link-ul corect
http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/06/exclusive-get-sli-for-your-p45-motherboard.html#more-4607

realizarea tipului e buna,sa vedem ce-o sa mai sara Intel si Nvidia

mascotzel
06-08-2009, 15:54
HIS Radeon HD 4890 iCooler x4 Detailed (http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/06/his-radeon-hd-4890-icooler-x4-detailed.html)

Coco
06-08-2009, 19:22
HD 4860 Starts Shipping in Two Weeks, HD 4750 Follows (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?100953)


Slated to ship from around August 18, the HD 4860 will substitute the HD 4850, which is handling the lower price segment of $90~$110.

Even as the Radeon HD 4770 is suffering stock shortages around the world, ATI seems to be going ahead with the HD 4750, a graphics card based on the 40 nm RV740 GPU. The HD 4750 has similar specifications to the HD 4770. It even sports GDDR5 memory. The RV740 core runs at 730 MHz, and its memory at 800 MHz (3200 MHz effective). While the memory clock speed is identical to that of the HD 4770, the core is clocked slightly lower. Overall, the card won't have as much overclocking headroom as the HD 4770, because it will not draw power from a 6-pin power connector. The design ensures existing low-performing raw materials are utilized more effectively. The HD 4750 is expected to be priced at $88 initially. The first batch of these cards will be very small, quantity-wise (aviz amatorilor).

mascotzel
06-08-2009, 19:27
ce tampenii

dupa ce zice acolo s-ar parea ca stock-urile de 4770 sunt 0 din cauza unui conector de alimentare

Coco
06-08-2009, 19:33
ce tampenii

dupa ce zice acolo s-ar parea ca stock-urile de 4770 sunt 0 din cauza unui conector de alimentare
:what: unde mah grabitule? eu am inteles ca neavand conector suplimentar, cumparatorii nu ar trebui sa se astepte sa oc-eze prea mult 4750-ul (pb ca nici pana la frecventele 4770-ului)... si mai zice la final ca si stocurile de 4750 vor fi foarte mici (la fel ca la lansarea 4770-ului) :P

mascotzel
06-08-2009, 19:39
pai scot 4770,placa buna,ceruta...si n-au de unde sa ofere produsul
apoi scot 4750,care e acelasi lucru,mai putin frecventa mai mica cauzata de lipsa conectorului de alimentare
logica de balta ar concluziona ca din cauza conectorului de alimentare nu sunt 4770

eram ironic la balariile astea ale lor cu diversificarea gamei...mi se pare ca exagereaza

Coco
06-08-2009, 19:44
si daca ce ziceam mai sus e adevarat, cum ca in doua luni scot placi directx 11 pe 40 de nm intre 50 si 600 de coco, atunci exagereaza la greu. ai dreptate, si sunt si eu curios ce se va intampla cu aceste placi (4770, 4750 si 4860) dupa luna noiembrie... poate insa ca sunt prea scumpe de fabricat 4850/4870/4890-urile, si poate ca nu vor avea placi directx 11 care sa umple toate segmenţelele de preturi...

mascotzel
06-08-2009, 19:46
DX11 vor fi mai scumpe si fara nimic desoebit (nu e ce juca DX11<doar performanta le va diferentia)

Coco
06-08-2009, 20:04
nu ai de unde sa stii, si nici nu ai cum sa presupui preturi (sau raporturi performanta pret)... iar vizavi de utilitate - daca vrei facem si un pariu - te asigur ca la aparitia windows 7 (peste 2-3 luni) vor exista disponibile cel putin 2-3 jocuri directx 11...

si pentru cine are chef sa-l citeasca pe Charlie Demerjian (ex-Inquirer, actual semi-accurate) - Four more GT300 variants tip up (http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/08/05/four-more-gt300-variants-tip/)

LordW
06-08-2009, 20:30
PCI Express 3.0 2010 ?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2351266,00.asp

Coco
07-08-2009, 13:35
Quick Test of Most Powerful GTX260 from Zotac (http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/07/quick-test-of-most-powerful-gtx260-from-zotac.html/3)

Zotac GTX 260 Extreme comes with core/shader/memory clock of 750/1600/1200MHz, up from 576/1242/999MHz on the reference design.

Equipped with Arctic Cooling XTREME GTX 280 cooler, the card can run steadily at 800/1770/1375MHz (core/shader/memory), and 3DMark Vantage score achieves P15977 - an increase of 10.7%.

After changing for a more powerful fan and adding heatsink for the Mosfet, the clocks can be improved to 820/1800/1375MHz.

Zotac GTX260 Extreme can be effortlessly overclocked to above 800MHz, and its performance can even outperform GeForce GTX285…

The awesome card is expected to be available in Chinese market next month, with lower pricing than GeForce GTX275. Zotac is also working on a GeForce GTX285 with 15 phase PWM design as well. We do look forward to seeing more of Zotac’s engineering skills in the future.


PowerColor Unveils Custom-Cooled PCS HD4770 (http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/07/powercolor-unveils-custom-cooled-pcs-hd4770.html)
http://www.powercolor.com/Global/news_content_HTML/090806_HD4770/HD4770_PCS.jpg

DeDeRa
07-08-2009, 13:54
Extraodinar Zotac GTX 260...
...
Extraodinar!!!

Coco
14-09-2009, 20:24
GV-R477UD-1GI (http://www.schottenland.de/preisvergleich/preise/proid_20000722/GIGABYTE-Radeon-HD4770-GV-R477UD-1GI) - un model interesant de 4770 de la Gigabyte, si cred ca ventul va fi ceva mai silentios decat cel de pe racirea stock (fiind mai maricel).

http://www.schottenland.de/dimages/imc/pi/Gigabyte-HD4770-1Gb--square240.jpg

Coco
14-09-2009, 20:34
Multe stiri/zvonuri despre nelansatele 5870/5850 de la AMD...

AMD Cypress ''Radeon HD 5870'' Stripped (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?103599)

The seemingly huge die measures 338 mm² (area), and for 40 nm, it translates to "huge", and is vindicated by the transistor count of ~2.1 billion. In contrast, AMD's older flagship GPU, the RV790 holds 959 million, and NVIDIA's GT200 holds 1.4 billion.

The PCB has three distinct areas: the connectivity, processing, and VRM. To fuel the GPU is a high-grade 4 phase digital PWM power circuit, while the PCB has placeholders for an additional vGPU phase. The 8 (or 16 on the 2 GB model) memory chips, is powered by a 2 phase circuit. Power is drawn from two 6-pin PCI-Express power connectors, but there seems to be a placeholder for two more pins, i.e., to replace one of those 6-pin connectors with an 8-pin one. Bordering the GPU on two sides are the 8 GDDR5 memory chips, which AMD calls says is generation ahead of present GDDR5, and supports reference frequencies as high as 1300 MHz (2600 MHz DDR, 5.20 GHz effective). In the 2 GB variant, 8 more chips seat on the other side of the PCB. This is what perhaps, the backplate is intended to cool. On the connectivity portion of it, are the two CrossFire connectors, DisplayPort, HDMI and a cluster of two DVI-D connectors.

While HD 5870 sports 1600 stream processors, 80 TMUs, and 32 ROPs, HD 5850 has 1440 stream processors, 72 TMUs, and 32 ROPs. Although 32 ROPs puzzles us for a 256-bit wide memory interface, we suspect low-level design changes that make "32 ROPs" more of an effective count than an absolute count. While HD 5870 features over 800 MHz core clock and 5.20 GHz memory, its little sibling has over 700 MHz core clock and 4.40 GHz memory. Price points expected are US $449 for Radeon HD 5870 2 GB, $399 for HD 5870 1 GB, and $299 for HD 5850. AMD is expected to announce all three models on the coming 23rd.
First Radeon HD 5870 Performance Figures Surface (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?103786)
http://www.czechgamer.com/pics/clanky/RobertVarga_14-09-2009-11-29-47_hd5870hawx.jpg

Radeon HD 5870 is anywhere between 5~155 percent faster than GeForce GTX 285. That's a huge range, and leaves a lot of room for uncertainty.

When compared to GeForce GTX 295, its performance ranges between -25 percent (25% slower) to 95 percent (almost 2x faster), another broad range.

When two HD 5870 cards are set up in CrossFire, the resulting setup is -5 percent (5% slower) to 90 percent faster than GeForce GTX 295. Strangely, the range maximum is lesser than that on the single card.

When three of these cards are setup in 3-way CrossFireX, the resulting setup is 10~160 percent faster than a GeForce GTX 295.
The Radeon HD 5850 on the other hand, can be -25 percent (25% slower) to 120 percent faster than GeForce GTX 285.
Mi se par extrem de mari diferentele (a se citi partinitoare)... insa si noua pastila este IMENSA...

Dragos Saraolu
14-09-2009, 20:44
Alte rezultate care te lasa cu gura cascata :eek2: O fi reusit ATI sa faca acum ce nu a facut ani de zile?

Coco
14-09-2009, 20:49
Hacked ForceWare 190.62 XP Driver Enables SLI On All Motherboards

Dovada: aici (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4013107&postcount=132) si aici (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4013237&postcount=145), pe xs. Foarte FOARTE interesant. Mai ales sporurile de performanta...

Dragos Saraolu
14-09-2009, 21:21
Le-a scapat in sfarsit :D. Pot sa spun ca este stirea anului.

Coco
14-09-2009, 22:02
Numai si numai lucruri noi si extrem de interesante...

Juniper XT is Radeon HD 5770 and Juniper LE is HD 5750 (http://vr-zone.com/articles/juniper-xt-is-radeon-hd-5770-and-juniper-le-is-hd-5750/7626.html?doc=7626) - se lanseaza la o luna dupa 5850/5870/5870x2 conform fudzilla (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15471/34/)

HD 5770 card is codenamed Countach while HD 5750 is codenamed Corvette and they both come with 1GB GDDR5 memories on 128-bit memory interface. Juniper will possess all the features of its higher end counterpart like 40nm, DX11, Eyefinity technology, ATI Stream, UVD2, GDDR5 and best of all, it is going to be very affordable.

One of the reason why AMD is not mass producing Radeon HD 4700 (RV740) series now is because HD 5700 series will be replacing it soon and will come one month after HD 5800 series. It will meet head on against the NVIDIA's D10P1 (GT215) series in October so expect a full fledge war then. With a performance target of 1.6x over the HD 4770 and 1.2x over the HD 4750, they are surely packed with enough power to pit against the NVIDIA's lineup. Pair them up and you will get a boost of 1.8x which is roughly the performance of a Cypress card.
Daca e cum spun baietii astia (m-as mira), atunci lansarea HD 4770 a fost se pare doar una pe hartie, produsele vandute pana in prezent (mai ales la noi) fiind extrem de putine din cate stiu eu.


Cat despre 5850/5870 si ale lor specificatii, le aveti atasate (conform hardware-infos.com (http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=3188&sprache=1)), acestea putand explica relativ saltul de performanta ,,testat" mai sus, iar urmatorul tabel avanseaza niste cifre fantastice pentru consumul in idle ale noilor placi AMD, conform expreview (http://en.expreview.com/2009/09/14/power-consumption-comparison-of-radeon-hd-5870-hd-5850.html)...

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/09/14/AMD_Radeon_5800_TDP.png

mascotzel
14-09-2009, 22:02
Hacked ForceWare 190.62 XP Driver Enables SLI On All Motherboards

Dovada: aici (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4013107&postcount=132) si aici (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4013237&postcount=145), pe xs. Foarte FOARTE interesant. Mai ales sporurile de performanta...

6600LE...m-a dat pe spate....

Coco
14-09-2009, 22:05
mascotzel, carcotasule... dar de chipset-ul folosit (Intel P965) ce mai zici? :P

S-or mai arunca poate si altii la experimente de genul, cu placi video mai potente... poate chiar romanasi curiosi, nu? :D

mascotzel
14-09-2009, 22:29
pai chipsetul e 16+4
tocmai de aia e neinteresant,nici crossfire nu merita pe placa aia...da un sli de 6600LE (din ce epoca e asta) tre sa fie "za bomb"

sa arate ceva "utilizabil"

eu caut stirea pt mase,nu lucrul extraterestru din ea

Coco
14-09-2009, 23:46
Nu carcotas... super-carcotas! :P

Si sa mai spun si vreo 2 despre Nvidia, sa mai fie si de la verzi...

Atom with Ion can do 1080p HD (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15491/34/) - as vrea sa vad asta cu ochisorii (+ ajutatorii de vedere) mei...

New Batman game does some serious PhysX (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15493/34/) - iar sunt curios sa aflu daca fara Physx activat tot pustiu ca Mirror's Edge o sa fie jocul...

Coco
16-09-2009, 23:33
Nvidia confident that GT300 wins over HD 5870 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15535/34/) - asta echivaleaza cu ,,Ale noastre o sa fie mai scumpe"

ATI Radeon HD 5870 Smiles for the Camera (http://en.expreview.com/2009/09/15/ati-radeon-hd-5870-smiles-for-the-camera.html) - VRM muuuult mai aerisit decat la 4870 (si chiar fata de unele variante de 4890), cu o alimentare digitala in doar 4 faze a procului (40 nm + 2.1 miliarde de tranzistori egal totusi love). Acest lucru ar putea echivala cu temperaturi mai omenesti in acea zona (deci mai putine batai de cap pentru cei care vor sa schimbe racirea).

Atasat sunt si niste capturi din driver-ul ATI cu variatia temperaturii in load in functie de rotatia ventilatorului cooler-ului stock. Relativ ok...

Coco
16-09-2009, 23:36
Games Will Leap Towards Photo-Realism With DirectX 11 (http://www.dailytech.com/Games+Will+Leap+Towards+PhotoRealism+With+DirectX+ 11/article16256.htm) - Features like tessellation and physics may finally challenge graphics cards. Doamne-Ajuta!

mascotzel
17-09-2009, 01:53
vezi si primul comentariu de acolo

depinde si de traducerea titlului,e doar un pas mic

Dragos Saraolu
23-09-2009, 09:08
HD5870 vs. GTX285 pe un i7 la 4 GHz.

LE: Xtrem PC.

Coco
23-09-2009, 10:11
de unde e acel tabel (ca vad ca scris e in romana)?

matose
23-09-2009, 16:12
Oricum comparatia e aiurea.... e ca si cum ai compara GeForce GTX 275 cu HD 4770 :)

Andreea
23-09-2009, 16:26
N-as spune asa, au comparat cele mai puternice single gpu-uri existente pe piata, chiar daca fac parte din generatii diferite.

Coco
23-09-2009, 19:55
Oricum comparatia e aiurea.... e ca si cum ai compara GeForce GTX 275 cu HD 4770 :)
Interesant Matei ce spui tu (pe baza testului facut de lab501 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5870-vs-nvidia-gtx-295)). Dar mai intai o sa enumar testele lui HD 5870 de azi, si pe urma disecam firu-n ciunspe...

ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB Graphics Card and AMD Eyefinity Review @ pcper (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=783&type=expert&pid=5) - 5870 testat versus GTX 285 si GTX 295, plus un crossfire de 4870-uri.

Ati Radeon HD 5870 - The world's fastest single-gpu graphic card @ legionhardware (http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=858&p=2) - testat versus HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, HD 4870, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 280, GTX 275 si GTX 260.

Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 Review @ hardwarecanuks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/23415-sapphire-radeon-hd-5870-1gb-gddr5-review-8.html) - testat versus HD 4870 X2, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 275 si GTX 260. Interesant e ca in Dawn of War 2 baietii de la ATI au gasit o modalitate de a pacali demo-ul in driver-ul ce vine cu placa, avand fps mare dar cu obiecte lipsa pe harta.

If anything, the HD 5870 really showed the inherent difficulties with cards like the GTX 295 and HD 4870X2 which both live and die by their drivers rather than raw horsepower. While both dual chip cards outperformed the HD 5870 on a regular basis, they couldn't shake their limitations in order to deliver a killing blow. If anything, our results should also make it apparent that only reporting average framerates means dick all when it comes to comparing GPUs. A gamer could have a totally smooth gameplay experience until that one intense scene where performance drops like a stone. We've all had it happen to us and those situations continue to be the bane of the dual GPU cards' existence.
ATI Radeon HD 5870 DX11 Video Card Review @ legitreviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1080/4/) - testat versus HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, GTX 295, GTX 285 si crosfire de 5870-uri. Interesanta testarea/analizarea continutului audio iesit de pe HDMI via un film blu-ray + powerdvd.

ATI RADEON HD 5870 VS. NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX285 @ insidehw (http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphics-cards/ATI-Radeon-HD-5870-vs-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX285/Page-4.html) - un test ciudat; vs. 4870x2 si GTX 285.

Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB Graphics Card @ tweaktown (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2933/sapphire_radeon_hd_5870_1gb_graphics_card/index4.html) - vs. 4890, GTX 285 si GTX 295.

AMD ATI Radeon HD 5870: Unquestionably Number One @ hothardware (http://hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-ATI-Radeon-HD-5870-Unquestionably-Number-One/) - vs. 4890, 4870x2, GTX 285 si GTX 295. Interesanta comparatia calitatii imaginii in jocuri (http://hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-ATI-Radeon-HD-5870-Unquestionably-Number-One/?page=5).

Sapphire HD 5870 Review - overclockersclub (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd5870/4.htm) - vs. HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 275 si GTX 260.

AMD's Radeon HD 5870 graphics processor @ techreport (http://techreport.com/articles.x/17618/8) - vs. 4890, GTX 285, GTX 295, plus crossfire de 5870-uri si sli de GTX 285-uri.

My one gripe: I wish the board wasn't quite so long, because it may face clearance issues in some enclosures.

The 5870 card's PCB is 10.5" long, an inch longer than the 4980 before it and the same size as a GeForce GTX 260 or a Radeon HD 4870 X2.
ATI Radeon HD 5870 Graphics Card @ driverheaven (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842&pageid=4) - vs. 4890, cf de 4870-uri, GTX 285 si GTX 295. Interesant Media Playback (Blu-Ray & MKV) (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842&pageid=17) - ATI incarca mai putin procesorul in blu-ray-uri, iar Nvidia mult mai putin in mkv-uri, GPU Computing - Video Encoding (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842&pageid=18) - Badaboom e cu 3 secunde mai rapid ca Ati Avivo si GPU Computing - DVD Upscaling (http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842&pageid=19) - Ati incarca mai putin procesorul in Power DVD 9.

ATI Radeon HD 5870 Review @ techspot (http://www.techspot.com/review/198-ati-radeon-hd-5870-review/) - vs. HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 275 si GTX 260.

ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB Review @ bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/09/23/ait-radeon-hd-5870-1gb-review/2) - vs. 4890, 4870x2, GTX 285 si GTX 295.

ATI Radeon HD 5870 Performance Preview @ firingsquad (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_hd_5870_performance_preview/page6.asp) - vs. HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, HD 4870, HD 4850, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 275, GTX 260, 8800 GTX, 9800gx2 si 8800 GT.

AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870 Video Card Review @ hardocp (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/22/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5870_video_card_review/7) - vs. 4890 si GTX 285.

AMD ATI Radeon HD 5870 DX11 graphics-card reviewed and rated @ hexus (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20289) - vs. 4890, 4870 x2, GTX 295, GTX 285 si GTX 275.

Radeon HD 5870: Review of the first DirectX 11 graphics card @ pcgameshardware (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,695689/Radeon-HD-5870-Review-of-the-first-DirectX-11-graphics-card/Reviews/) - vs. HD 4870 X2, HD 4890, HD 4870, 3870, GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 275, GTX 260, 8800 GTX si 8800 GT. interesant indexul de performanta (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,695689/Radeon-HD-5870-Review-of-the-first-DirectX-11-graphics-card/Reviews/?page=17) pentru diverse rezolutii.

ATi Radeon HD 5870 @ computerbase (http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/test_ati_radeon_hd_5870/9/#abschnitt_testsystem) - vs. toate. :D din nou interesante graficele cu performanta (http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/test_ati_radeon_hd_5870/23/) pe diverse rezolutii.

ATI Radeon HD 5870: DirectX 11, Eyefinity, And Serious Speed @ tomshardware (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-5870,review-31685.html) - vs. 4870, 4890, 4870x2, GTX 285 si GTX 295.

DirectX 11 in the Open: ATI Radeon HD 5870 Review @ xbitlabs (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870_8.html#sect0) - vs. 4890, 4870x2, GTX 285 si GTX 295.

Radeon HD 5870 review @ guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5870-review-test/14) - vs. toate. :D Interesant Video Transcoding over the GPU (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5870-review-test/25), din care Stream iese invingator versus CUDA. Partea proasta pentru baietii astia e ca nu mentioneaza numele aplicatiei pe nicaieri in test, asadar aceasta ,,descoperire" egal fix ZERO.

AMD's Radeon HD 5870: Bringing About the Next Generation Of GPUs @ Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643) - vs. toate (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=16). :D Interesanta sectiunea The Race is Over: 8-channel LPCM, TrueHD & DTS-HD MA Bitstreaming (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=10)...

I can't begin to express how relieving it is to finally have GPUs that implement a protected audio path capable of handling these overly encrypted audio streams. Within a year everything from high end GPUs to chipsets with integrated graphics will have this functionality.
... cat si sectiunile ce se refera la calitatea imaginii in jocuri. Concluziile lor:

the 5870 is the single fastest single-GPU card we have tested, by a wide margin. Looking at its performance in today’s games, as a $379 card it makes the GTX 285 at its current prices ($300+) completely irrelevant. The price difference isn’t enough to make up for the performance difference, and NVIDIA also has to contend with the 5850, which should perform near the GTX 285 but at a price of $259. As is often the case with a new generation of cards, we’re going to see a shakeup here in the market as NVIDIA in particular needs to adjust to these new cards.

AMD was shooting to beat the GTX 295 with the 5870, but in our benchmarks that’s not happening. The 295 and the 5870 are close, perhaps close enough that NVIDIA will need to reconsider their position, but it’s not enough to outright dethrone the GTX 295. NVIDIA still has the faster single-card solution, although the $100 price premium is well in excess of the <10% performance premium.

Moving away from performance, we have feature differentiation. AMD has a clear advantage here with DirectX11, as the 5870 is going to be a very future-proof card. When games using DX11 arrive, it’s going to bring about a nice change in quality (particularly with tessellation). However it’s going to be a bit of a wait to get there.


Am lasat la urma poate cel mai bun test de pe net, al celor de la techpowerup (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/1.html). De ce spun asta? Sunt singurii care s-au gandit (fiind si mai priceputi de fel) sa dezactiveze din bios-ul placii doua SIMD-uri si sa reduca frecventa unui 4870 astfel incat sa simuleze performanta unui non-existent deocamdata (desi lansat cica tot azi) HD 5850. Concluziile lor (si atasate pe diverse rezolutii)...
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/images/perfrel.gif

Pe langa acestea mai mentionez faptul ca 5870 are un consum fantastic de mic in idle iar in load putin mai mult decat 4890 (pe care insa o surclaseaza in termeni de performanta).


Asadar, avem un tablou complet al zilei de azi, cu toate testele de 5870-uri, unele mai reusite, altele mai putin reusite.

N-as spune asa, au comparat cele mai puternice single gpu-uri existente pe piata, chiar daca fac parte din generatii diferite.
Ai dreptate, asa au facut toti de pe net. Totusi, unul dintre ele este cu adevarat unic prin abordare (asta vizavi si de abordarea traditionala a site-ului cu pricina), fiind singurul test de pe net care nu include o alta placa single-gpu... este de altfel si singurul test romanesc, si o sa il comentez pe scurt - promit! :D - imediat.

matose
23-09-2009, 20:54
Interesant Matei ce spui tu (pe baza testului facut de lab501 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5870-vs-nvidia-gtx-295)).

Acolo e comparat varf de gama cu varf de gama (HD 5870 cu GTX 295) care au si preturi similare :). Comparatia cu GTX 285 e pur si simplu irelevanta, trebuie sa recunosti asta, oricat de fanATIc ai fi :)

Dragos Saraolu
23-09-2009, 21:11
Parerea mea este ca ar fi trebuit comparata atat cu GTX285 cat si cu 295 deoarece fiecare aveti partea lui de dreptate, adica o comparatie din punct de vedere al lui single GPU unde trebuie determinat cine este lider, dar si a pretului de achizitie. In concluzie nici una din variante nu este rea, mai degraba se completeaza reciproc.

Coco a testat si Xtrem PC 5870-ul, deci nu sunt singurii romani.

Coco
23-09-2009, 22:04
Acolo e comparat varf de gama cu varf de gama (HD 5870 cu GTX 295) care au si preturi similare :). Comparatia cu GTX 285 e pur si simplu irelevanta, trebuie sa recunosti asta, oricat de fanATIc ai fi :)
Am inteles. Sunt fan ATI. Ok, cum spui tu. O sa fac si eu o aluzie la final, sper sa nu iasa certuri prea mari. ;)

Vorbeam mai devreme de abordarea traditionala a site-ului lab501. Si cand am spus asta ma refeream tot la un test din primavara, la GTS 250 (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/nemuritorul-se-intoarce-nvidia-geforce-gts-250), in care a fost facut un versus GTS 250 / 9800 GTX+, scris de acelasi redactor ca si acum, din a carui concluzie citez...

Avem de-a face cu un produs mai ieftin, dar cu performante mai bune decat inaintasul sau. Dar daca acum aveti in plan sa cumparati un o placa grafica mainstream, GTS 250 este cu siguranta cea mai buna alegere, datorita performantei usor crescute, al pretului mai mic si al consumului redus.
La vreo 2 ore dupa ce a aparut testul pe site, desi pe vremea aia iti eram coleg, nu m-am putut stapani sa nu intervin pe crazy (http://forum.crazypc.ro/showpost.php?p=157301&postcount=10) sa mentionez care au fost preturile din momentul lansarii (preturi reale, de pe site-ul celor de la itdirect), preturi mult mai mari ca ale unui 9800GTX+, si care se apropiau de cele ale unui 4870. Si in zona aia au stat inca 2 saptamani peste tot, inclusiv in Romania, asa cum am scris aici (http://lab501.ro/stiri/gts-240-nu-gtx-275-da-razboiul-preturilor-atinvidia-continua).

Cu toate acestea domnul redactor a spus atunci ca GTS 250 are un pret bun (???), si ca isi merita banii (???). Ba mai mult, nu l-a testat versus produsul care se afla la acelasi pret (putin mai scump - ATI HD 4870), nedumerire pe care mi-am exprimat-o la acea vreme doar in particular.

Motivatia: ,,lasa ca peste vreo 2 saptamani - o luna o sa scada foarte mult pretul, o sa vezi". Si a avut dreptate domnul redactor cand a spus o luna. Numai ca intre timp un cititor fidel al site-ului lab501 stia doar ca GTS 250 isi merita cu prisosinta banii.

Iar acum avem parte de o lansare a primei placi DirectX 11, PRIMA ce ofera suport pentru aceasta tehnologie. Si... SURPRIZA! Nu mai e testata vs. 4890... nici macar vs. GTX 285 (cea mai buna placa single-gpu la momentul actual).

Vorbeai de preturi... pai e simplu. Uite preturile in Germania...

HD 5870 porneste de la 320 de euro (http://www.geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=891_Radeon+HD+5870) (pre-comanda).

HD 5850 porneste de la 205 euro (http://www.geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=891_Radeon+HD+5850) (pre-comanda).

GTX 285 porneste de la 240 euro (http://www.geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=891_GeForce+GTX+285).

GTX 295 porneste de la 295 euro (http://www.geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&xf=891_GeForce+GTX+295).

In Romania aprox. cel mai ieftin GTX 295 e 1600 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/leadtek/winfast-gtx-295-v2-179gb-ddr3-896-bit/), iar cel mai ieftin GTX 285 e 1200 ron (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/bfg-tech/geforce-gtx-285-oc-rev-b-1gb-ddr3-512-bit/). Aplicand o regula de 3 simpla la preturile de mai sus, ar rezulta ca un 5850 ar trebui sa coste vreo 900-1000 ron (va fi cu siguranta un best-buy daca asta va fi pretul real), iar un 5870 ~ 1800 ron.

Asta ce ar insemna? Ca 5870 va avea in perioada imediat urmatoare un raport pret/performanta chiar infect.

Bun, pai si atunci care e concluzia: ca nu isi merita banii acum, nu? Concluzie reliefata de domnul redactor foarte bine (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5870-vs-nvidia-gtx-295/10)...


Daca tot am ajuns la capitolul pret, trebuie sa discutam si acest aspect, care sincer este mai putin placut decat ne asteptam. ATI ne-au obisnuit in ultima vreme cu produse foarte competitive din punct de vedere al pretului, si se pare ca de aceasta data strategia este diferita. Pretul de vanzare pentru SUA se situeaza intr-adevar in jurul valorii de 400$. Problema este ca pretul recomandat de vanzare pentru Europa este de 349 de Euro, iar daca adaugam si TVA-ul necesar comercializarii acestui produs in tara noastra, ajungem la ~415 Euro, adica ~ 1760 RON, adica aproximativ acelasi pret cu modelul de GTX 295 testat astazi. Este adevarat, motivele invocate mai sus recomanda achizitia unui Radeon 5870 in acest moment, datorita suportului DirectX 11 dar si al consumului semnificativ redus fata de GTX 295. Totusi, nu putem sa nu remarcam faptul ca odata ajunsi aproape de pozitia de egalitate, cei de la ATI/AMD practica preturi similare cu cele ale concurentei, abandonand strategia folosita in cazul ultimelor generatii de placi video.

Numai atat? Pai nu... toate site-urile serioase (hardwarecanuks, anandtech & co) mentioneaza ca o placa single-gpu puternica ofera la orice ora o experienta de gaming mult mai buna, fara problemele cauzate de driver-ele nu suficient optimizate pentru solutiile dual-gpu (gen GTX 295). Si iar toate mentioneaza ca acest pret este umflat TEMPORAR pentru ca Nvidia nu are ce sa ofere (directx 11).

Asadar, daca cineva vrea sa isi faca saptamana viitoare upgrade (cand presupunem ca 5870 va aparea pe stoc), lab501 ce ii spune? Ai o placa dual-gpu in aceeasi bani de la Nvidia cu performanta mai buna. Numai ca respectivul o sa fie foarte surprins cand va aparea un joc nou in care va avea probleme datorate driver-elor (la fel cum - ba chiar mai multe - ar avea cu un 4870x2), sau un joc directx 11 la care o sa se uite cu jind la setarile maxime (asa cum posesorii de placi ATI se uita cu jind la efectele Physx care sunt EXCLUSIVE Nvidia, si jocul nu poate fi rulat cu acestea activate decat avand o placa Nvidia). Si chiar daca acum DirectX 11 egal 0, nu acelasi lucru il vom putea spune dupa ce se va urni armata Microsoft cu al lor Windows Seven (si jocuri diverse asortate).

Doua situatii similare, doua lansari de placi video, metodologie ,,rafinata" astfel incat produsele Nvidia sa apara in top in orice context (fie ca are un raport pret/performanta execrabil - vezi GTS 250, fie ca nu au produs echivalent cu aceleasi capabilitati - vezi 5870 si DirectX 11). Sunt curios ce cusur va mai avea 5850...

Un fraier ar raspunde... ,,ba voi sunteti fani Nvidia". Numai ca eu am trecut de stadiul ala. Altele sunt motivatiile la nivelul asta. ;) Intrebarea care se pune: ,,Tu, Matei, stii?"

Este ultima mea interventie pe aceasta tema pentru ca nu intentionez sa dau nastere unui nou scandal (sau sa il perpetuez daca va fi cazul).

Artanis
24-09-2009, 14:03
Sunt curios ce cusur va mai avea 5850...
Cum ce cusur, foloseste Catalyst, ar zice unii :)

Mai serios vorbind, astept si primele info legate de gama medie, 5770 or so...

atomidude
24-09-2009, 14:18
Nu stiu altii cum sunt, dar eu vreau una! O 5870 adica... Ia sa vaz cum fac comanda la newegg...
Ma gandeam sa iau doua 4870, dar din moment ce costa cam la fel cat una bucata 5870 si vin cu toate problemele de compatibilitate si consum mult mai mare, minus future proof, why bother?

mascotzel
24-09-2009, 15:18
au intrat preturile 58xx la itdirect

sapphire 5870 ~1470LEI
gigabyte 5870 ~ 1550 LEI
sapphire 5850 ~1030LEI

Coco
24-09-2009, 17:29
au intrat preturile 58xx la itdirect

sapphire 5870 ~1470LEI
gigabyte 5870 ~ 1550 LEI
sapphire 5850 ~1030LEI

Interesant. Si cum ITDirect practica niste preturi foarte putin mai mari, le vom vedea si mai ieftine in retail (pcgarage & shit).

Asadar vom avea HD 5850 ~ 1000 ron, GTX 285 - 1200 ron, HD 5870 ~ 1450 ron, GTX 295 - 1600 ron, cu HD 5850 best-buy in categoria upper-mainstream / high-end si cu un 5870 cu un pret corect avand in vedere ca e varful single-GPU.

Si mai avem doua publicatii romanesti care au cacat-o grav, mai intai XtremPC care a comparat 5870-ul doar versus GTX 285 (asta reiese din graficul lui Dragos), dar mai ales inverzitii si unicii de la lab501 care au comparat-o doar versus GTX295 (si nu ma refer la verdele unei sigle), ca doar Nvidia trebuie sa fie prima oricand si oricum (iar cei care nu stiu treaba asta sunt fani ATI, fanilor ATI!!!).

Oricum, e posibil sa creasca artificial preturile la ambele produse noi daca distribuitorii de pe la noi vor profita de cererea (probabil) mult mai mare decat stocurile mici/inexistente din aceste produse. Si la HD 4770 a fost la un moment dat o astfel de crestere temporara.

Ce bine ar fi sa avem o publicatie romaneasca de specialitate care sa nu aiba parti-pri-uri... :(

Coco
25-09-2009, 09:28
de pe computergames (http://forum.computergames.ro/2-hardware/508938-ati-hd-5xxx/page-22.html)... mi-am permis sa modific quote-ul si sa dau link direct la versiunea tradusa in engleza...

Radeon 5850 simulated (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/vorschau_ati_radeon_hd_5850/3/&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=)

un 5850 simulat dintr-un 5870
au tratat problema mai amanuntit decat techpowerup,in sensul ca 5850 nu e diferentiat de 5870 doar prin frecvente si numarul unitatilor de texturare
in cazul lor,nu e diferenta asa mare fata de gtx285 (cu exceptia setarilor f mari de calitate)
diferentele de performanta (simulata) intre 5850 si GTX 285 in opinia computerbase - aici (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/vorschau_ati_radeon_hd_5850/16/&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhgrHSgfz67Ec8aCCAT9DOfZsclTSA#abschnitt_p erformancerating) - intre 0-14% in favoarea 5850, in functie de rezolutie si setari.

Coco
25-09-2009, 11:32
Si mai avem doua publicatii romanesti care au cacat-o grav, mai intai XtremPC care a comparat 5870-ul doar versus GTX 285 (asta reiese din graficul lui Dragos), dar mai ales inverzitii si unicii de la lab501 care au comparat-o doar versus GTX295.
se pare ca am gresit. cu xtrempc. vor aparea in revista printata mai multe comparatii cu placi video felurite.

In alta ordine de idei... AMD Radeon HD 5870 X2 Pictured (http://www.techpowerup.com/104586/AMD_Radeon_HD_5870_X2_Pictured.html) - IMENSA!!!


astept si primele info legate de gama medie, 5770 or so...

[Rumour] ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series Sum-Up (http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-ati-radeon-hd-5700-series-sum-up/7717.html?doc=7717)

AMD Juniper Early Specs Surface (http://www.techpowerup.com/104544/AMD_Juniper_Early_Specs_Surface.html) - cam tot zvon

Dragos Saraolu
25-09-2009, 18:20
Coco sa stii nu este nimic rau sa o compari o placa video doar cu o singura alta placa video, sau chiar cu nici una, doar sa arati ce poate acea placa. Eu de plida in loc de o megacomparatie prefer sa vad cum se comporta o placa video la diferite frecvente ale procesorului, astfel pot sa asez singur placa video in ierarhie. Mai sunt multe aspecte care te forteaza la un review scurt si timpul este factorul principal. In mare orice test este binevenit atata timp cat este corect facut din punct de vedere al acuratetii rezultatelor.

Coco
25-09-2009, 23:57
Tu normal ca preferi asta. La o adica si eu, de ce nu? Dar nu la noi se referea observatia mea de mai sus (sau la oricine altcineva care mai citeste mai multe teste despre un anumit produs), ci ma refeream la cei care se informeaza exclusiv de pe un anume site. Iar comportamentul majoritatii acestora este de a arunca un ochi peste grafice si de a citi 2-3 propozitii din concluzie.

In acest fel, acesti cititori pseudo-informati de catre site-ul in cauza (daca sunt dornici sa faca o achizitie in perioada urmatoare si daca dispun de finantele necesare) vor goli stocurile ramase de GTX 295 (lucru foarte necesar pentru distribuitorii Nvidia in Romania inaintea lansarii GT300). Deci utilitatea acestuia este alta (oare?) decat cea dorita - o informare corecta a TUTUROR cititorilor in vederea unei potentiale achizitii. Nisa de cititori super-informati era oricum acoperita de site-urile straine.

LE: iar apropo de timp, ia uite aici (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/259688-post16.html.) cat de rapizi au trebuit sa fie cei de la hardwarecanucks. scuze se pot gasi oricand, teste serioase si corecte mai rar.

Coco
25-09-2009, 23:58
Sapphire HD 5870 Vapor-X Spotted (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?104447) - nu stiu daca va fi mai silentios, ina in mod sigur va avea nevoie de o carcasa mai aerisita decat varianta stock


Gigabyte's GeForce GT 220 OC Accelerator Spotted (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?104432) - PRIMA PLACA DESKTOP pe 40 NM DISPONIBILA IN RETAIL DE LA NVIDIA


Gigabyte's newest entry-level graphics accelerator is based on one of NVIDIA's first GPUs built on the 40 nm fab-process. The Gigabyte GeForce GT 220 OC (GV-N220OC-1G) is based on the new GT216-300 GPU from NVIDIA that features 48 shader processors, support for DirectX 10.1, and a 128-bit wide GDDR3 memory interface accommodating 1 GB of memory.

The GPU is clocked at 720 MHz, with its shader domain at 1567 MHz, and memory at 800 MHz (1600 MHz DDR). With connectivity options that include DVI-D, D-Sub, and HDMI with a gold-plated connector (merely aesthetic, as digital connections don't benefit), the card sports a cooler design similar to its custom-design Radeon HD 4770 1 GB accelerator.


Activating NVIDIA SLI on all motherboards, detailed HOW-TO (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://xdevs.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php%3Fcontent.30&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com)


Nvidia GT300 is taped out - 2009 launch if all goes smooth (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15688/34/)


INTERVIEW: Why is Lucid Hydra 200 better than CrossFire, SLI? (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/25/interview-why-is-lucid-hydra-200-better-than-crossfire2c-sli.aspx)

Coco
26-09-2009, 01:32
Intel Shows Off Working Larrabee, Set to Take on AMD, NVIDIA Next Year (http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Shows+Off+Working+Larrabee+Set+to+Take+on+AM D+NVIDIA+Next+Year/article16332.htm) - FOARTE interesant


Built on a multicore die-shrink of Intel's Pentium 54C architecture, the powerful new graphics chip was able to render a ray-traced scene from the id Software game, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, with ease. Ray-tracing is an advanced technique that has long been touted as an eventual replacement to rasterization in video games. Currently it is used for the high quality 3D animation found in many films.


The working chip was said to be on par with NVIDIA's GTX 285. With AMD's latest offerings trouncing the GTX 285 in benchmarks, the real question will be the power envelope, how many Larrabees Intel can squeeze on a graphics board, what kind of Crossfire/SLI-esque scheme it can devise, and most importantly the price.

A direct comparison between NVIDIA's GTX 285 and Larrabee is somewhat misleading, though, because Larrabee is unique in several ways. First Larrabee supports x86 instructions. Secondly, it uses tile-based rendering to accomplish task like z-buffering, clipping, and blending that its competitors do in hardware, with software instead (Microsoft's Xbox 360 works this way too). Third, all of its cores have cache coherency. All of these features stack up to (in theory) make Larrabee easier to program games for than NVIDIA and AMD's discrete offerings.

The GPU also still has some time to grow and be fine tuned. It's not expected until the first half of 2010. Intel is just now lining up board partners for the new card, so it should be interesting to see which companies jump on the bandwagon.


ATI supported Bullet Physics developed on Geforce (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15642/34/) - asta apropo de Physx si standarde inchise (rulabile pe hardware-ul unei singure companii)

Coco
27-09-2009, 13:43
DirectX 11 GPU War Heats up Between AMD and NVIDIA (http://en.expreview.com/2009/09/27/directx-11-gpu-war-heats-up-between-amd-and-nvidia.html)

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/09/27/AMD_NVIDIA_GPU_Roadmap.jpg


AMD announced the Radeon HD 5800 series (Cypress) graphics cards on Sep 23rd, and is now busy planning for HD 5700 series (Juniper) aiming at sub $200 mainstream market for October launch.


NVIDIA is concentrating on GT300 which is scheduled for launch in December. Though the specs are vague yet, sources suggest that AIC partners will get to design the GT300 cards themselves, which means no more boring reference cards.


NVIDIA is concentrating on GT300 which is scheduled for launch in December. Though the specs are vague yet, sources suggest that AIC partners will get to design the GT300 cards themselves, which means no more boring reference cards.

Tabelul este gresit in dreptul Nvidiei - GT 220 / GT 240 nu vor fi in NICIUN caz produse din segmentul mainstream, sau respectiv performance. Acolo vor fi plasate foarte probabil actualele GTX 260/275/285, in conditiile in care se pare ca GT300 va fi doar high-end / ultra-high-end.

Pare interesanta si ,,arma secreta" AMD 5890 - ce va fi pozitionata in functie de performantele GT300.

Coco
28-09-2009, 17:03
[Rumour] Nvidia GT300 Details - Fermi Codename Revealed (http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-nvidia-gt300-details--fermi-codename-revealed/7760.html?doc=7760)

It is clear that Nvidia are concentrating as much, if not more, on parallel computing rather than gaming. GT300 is expected to be a revolution, rather than the evolution Cypress was. GT300 will be large and hot, and is rumoured to be faster than the HD 5870. It is unknown as to how the GT300 will compete with Hemlock (5870 X2) - although Fudzilla suggest a dual-GT300 version is being planned. That could mean - a) A significantly cut down version of GT300 x 2; b) GT300 is more efficient than we are expecting; c) World's first widely distributed >300W TDP card. (Asus Mars is the only one thus far, though it is very much a limited edition) or d) Nvidia have to wait till the next half-node die shrink, like they did with GT200.

Enable PhysX in Batman Game Play Without NVIDIA GPU Present - And get playable FPS to boot! (http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1332461)

Artanis
30-09-2009, 17:23
AMD’s Radeon HD 5850: The Other Shoe Drops (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3650)

One thing that’s very clear in these benchmarks is that as things currently stand, the 5850 has made the GTX 285 irrelevant (again). The 5850 is anywhere between 9% and 16% faster depending on the resolution, cheaper by at least $35 as of Tuesday morning (with everything besides a single BFG model going for +$70 or more), and features DirectX11. The 5850 is a card that manages to – if at times barely – outclass the GTX285 in performance. If you’ve been waiting for a price shakeup, this is what you’ve been waiting for.

Coco
30-09-2009, 18:16
Teste ale aceluiasi 5850 gasiti si pe hothardware (http://hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-ATI-Radeon-HD-5850-Performance-Review/), hardocp (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/30/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5850_video_card_review), hexus (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20481), pcperspective (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=788&type=expert), techreport (http://techreport.com/articles.x/17652), legitreviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1097/1/), guru3d (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/) - inclusiv crossfire) si tomshardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5850,2433.html).

Se pare ca techpowerup a facut o treaba foarte buna cu acea simulare a performantei unui 5850, si astfel am aflat mai devreme cum sta treaba... 5850 best-buy de departe in categoria sa, fiind mai bun ca GTX 285 si mai ieftin. Disponibilitatea e MAREA problema, asa cum remarca si fudzilla pentru Europa (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15752/34/).


Cat despre continuarea aventurilor unui mare redactor pe planeta Nvidia...

Sunt curios ce cusur va mai avea 5850...
... am aflat e ca nu are. Adica el nu o are (http://lab501.ro/stiri/primele-teste-cu-hd5850), ca era si culmea ca acel simulacru de test (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5870-vs-nvidia-gtx-295) sa nu se lase cu urmari. Dar cand o va avea, Mama Omida prezice un test plin de bale cu iz de parere de rau (sper sa nu deranjeze pe nimeni - sic! - metaforele/eufemismele mele).


In alta ordine de idei...

DirectX 11: Tessellation in Stalker: CoP, Dirt 2, Unigine and Alien vs. Predator (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,696171/DirectX-11-Tessellation-in-Stalker-CoP-Dirt-2-Unigine-and-Alien-vs-Predator/News/)

GIGABYTE Radeon HD 5870 Graphics Card in CrossFire X (dual si tri-crossfire) (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2943/gigabyte_radeon_hd_5870_graphics_card_in_crossfire _x/index5.html) - trebuie sa fii putin dus sa cumperi mai multe 5870-uri pentru jocuri

Zotac Designs Shorter GeForce GTX 260 Accelerator (http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?104940)

Artanis
02-10-2009, 07:34
HD5700 series leaked info:
- 1120 stream processors
- 56 texture units TMU
- GDDR5

http://translate.google.nl/translate?prev=hp&hl=nl&js=y&u=http://www.mymypc.com/vbp/forum/showthread.php%3Fp%3D58958&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

Artanis
02-10-2009, 09:34
NVIDIA's Fermi: Architected for Tesla, 3 Billion Transistors in 2010 (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3651)

atomidude
05-10-2009, 13:29
Test 5870 in Crossfire. (http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/157044,ati-5870-in-crossfire.aspx) Ma rog, doar o avanpremiera la, ca banditii vor sa le cumparam revista :)

In concluzei, cumpara doua 5870 si ai sa poti juca Crysis la 1920X1200 Ultra High la 30-50 fps! Aproape OK, ce mai...

matose
05-10-2009, 13:35
Sunt multe teste pe net cu CF de 5870, chiar si cu 3 sau 4 placi ;)! Asadar nu vad nimic extraordinar in testul de mai sus...

atomidude
05-10-2009, 13:41
Am spus eu ca-i extraordinar? Mai degraba mi se pare ordinar sa cheltui $1,000 ca sa poti juca Crysis in HD :D

Coco
06-10-2009, 12:25
GeForce GT 210 & GT 220 said to debut next week (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=30031&catid=2)

Andreea
07-10-2009, 17:31
Sa fie Q9400@3500Mhz > Core I7 870@4000Mhz (lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5850-micul-gigant/6)? Sau vre-o diferenta de OS?

mache
07-10-2009, 21:03
Eu as paria pe diferenta de OS si (de ce nu) setari... si driverul poate avea rezultate diferite pe sisteme diferite ...

Dragos Saraolu
07-10-2009, 21:27
In Crysis Warhead atata timp cat procesorul este peste 3200 MHz nu prea iti mai aduce nimic in plus la FPS-uri, diferenta provine doar de la driver, 9.7 fata de 9.6, si de la Windows 7 fata de Vista SP1. In general Monstru da pe acelasi sistem de operare de ceva timp, nu este actualizat, prefera asa ca sa poata compara rezultatele obtinute de-a lungul timpului, altfel nu are referinta.

Andreea
08-10-2009, 06:38
Si, totusi, exista o limitare venita din partea procesorului, la setari cu o calitate mai redusa (4xAA vs. 2xAA).

Dragos Saraolu
08-10-2009, 07:18
Ca sa constati o limitare din partea procesorului iti trebuie rezolutie mica si calitatea imaginii pe low, la detalii cu AA activat nu mai conteaza procesorul, totul tine de placa video. Diferenta in Crysis Warhead cu 2xAA si 8xAA este de cateva FPS-uri (2-3 in general), "optimizarea" jocului este de vina.

Andreea
08-10-2009, 07:52
Eu as paria ca ridicarea frecventei procesorului la un 4000Mhz - 4100Mhz ar avea ca efect o crestere de ~ 2 FPS in testul cu 2xAA. Trebuie doar sa fac rost de un cooler mai rasarit, momentan folosesc unul box de la un Pentium Dual-core 2140 :D

DeDeRa
08-10-2009, 09:59
Uite aici ceva ciudat. Cu AA 4x am 30fps, iar cu AA 16x am 33fps. :eek::bulb: Dar asta s-a intamplat doar cat am avut ATI.
http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=43245&d=1254729535

matose
08-10-2009, 11:10
16x AA nu functioneaza pe ATI, asadar tu rulai defapt fara AA :)

DjLeco
08-10-2009, 13:13
Mai fratilor, eu nu inteleg ce va omoriti atit cu Crysis asta?!?
Este un joc FOARTE PROST OPTIMIZAT.

Sint jocuri care ofera calitate vizuala mai buna decit el, si merg UNS pe placi nu neaparat ultra-highend, cu totul la blana, ex Far Cry 2,Wolfenstein 2, si ar mai fi de zis...

Imi pare pierdere de timp "chinuiala" asta cu Crysis, pe bune, toata lumea il da ca referinta,nu inteleg de ce...

Mie imi pare o jmekerie facuta ca sa suprainvestim in hardware, in special pe partea de grafica...

Un joc de acum 2 ani, care sa nu poata fi jucat cu totul la maxim, cu ultimul racnet de hardware din zilele de astazi, mi se pare o porcarie...:rotf:

Coco
09-10-2009, 14:01
Foarte mare dreptare ai, DjLeco. ;) Se pare ca nici hardware-ul din 2010 nu va fi suficient de bun. :icon_wall

dios
09-10-2009, 14:10
Este complet aberant acest Crysis, nu ca m-as pricepe eu la vreun joc :D

DjLeco
10-10-2009, 05:17
Propun "banarea" acestui INTRUS, care nu ne da pace!
In hell with him!

Dragos Saraolu
10-10-2009, 06:34
Crysis este foarte bun ca etalon (benchmark), ai FPS-uri putine care pot departaja placile video, daca merge in asta merge orice este o sintagma din ce in ce mai des folosita. Jocul in sine nu te obliga nimeni sa-l instalezi daca nu-ti place :D.

mascotzel
12-10-2009, 13:26
Galaxy GeForce 210 and GT 220 Review - NVIDIA 40nm GPUs hit consumers (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=794&type=expert&pid=1) (@PcPer)

13:30
12-10-2009, 17:02
Doua petarde cu DDR2.
Un GT220 1GB DDR3 650/1800MHz GPU/Mem costa ~260 lei. Scump daca ne gandim ca ca performanta este putin peste 9500GT si mult sub 9600GT.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657

DeDeRa
12-10-2009, 17:53
Este o VARZA. 4670 e de doi ori mai buna si costa tot atat sau chiar mai putin...

Dragos Saraolu
12-10-2009, 20:57
Chestia asta nu o inteleg, au iesit cu pocnitorile la "inaintare", mai mare rasul :D.

Coco
12-10-2009, 22:18
Eu ma asteptam dupa unele specificatii aparute pe net inaint de lansare sa fie mai bune de 9600 GT. Cand de fapt... iar pretul este cu adevarat hilar.

Poate vor scadea preturile in curand, si poate noul GT 240 va avea ~ acel pret, aceasta fiind mai buna/proasta decat 8800 GT (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/10/nvidia-geforce-gt240-benchmarks-surface.html) (in functie de memorie)

Coco
12-10-2009, 22:25
Au aparut si primele teste ceva mai serioase ale cuplului AMD HD 5750/5770... de aici (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=40941733&postcount=3) aflam ca 5750 e putin mai buna ca un 4870 iar de aici (http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/ati-radeon-hd-5770-vs-4850-compared-4-game-benchmarks-66857/) ca 5770 e mai buna ca un 4850 cu 30-50%.

A aparut si un prim review pe hardwarezone.com (http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=3036&cid=3&pg=1) la 5770, fiind conform acestora mai slaba si ca 4870, dar mai ales ca 4890 la rezolutii mari. Mie mi se pare placa perfecta pentru cei cu monitoare de 19" (si cu oarece valente pentru cele de 22") care vor sa se bucure de jocuri directx 11 (cand vor aparea).

mascotzel
12-10-2009, 23:01
ar fi bine sa fie pretuite corect,altfel e no-go
58xx nu ofera doar DX11,ci ofera si performanta in DX10 de banii lor,de aia sunt produse bune

mascotzel
12-10-2009, 23:03
link-urile alea corelate nu prea se aduna,din unul aflam ca 5750 e mai buna ca 4870,din altu ca 5770 nu e (ceea ce e ilogic)

Coco
12-10-2009, 23:09
bine... alea sunt ale unor forumisti vorbitori de limbi straine si cam atat. aflam azi mai tarziu ce si cum. iar vizavi de pret, numai de bine (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/8/ati-set-to-redefine-the-mainstream-market-next-week.aspx) se pare...

mascotzel
12-10-2009, 23:28
m-am uitat pe hardware zone,si le dau dreptate
ytrbuie ceva mai mult de 128biti pt zona aia

Artanis
13-10-2009, 09:44
AMD’s Radeon HD 5770 & 5750: DirectX 11 for the Mainstream Crowd (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658)

ATI, best buy pe toata linia :)

mascotzel
13-10-2009, 10:03
nu e chiar consistenta performanta
ramane o felie de piata/performanta neacoperita cum trebuie ....le trebuie o placa pt a inlocui ce este 4890

AMD’s Radeon HD 5770 & 5750: DirectX 11 for the Mainstream Crowd (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658) (@anandtech)

AMD ATI Radeon HD 5770 and HD 5750 Review (http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2009/10/12/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5770_5750_review) (@[H]enthusiast)

ASUS Radeon HD 5770 1GB Voltage Tweak Edition Review (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/24216-asus-radeon-hd-5770-1gb-voltage-tweak-edition-review.html) (@HardwareCanucks)

XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Review (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/24204-xfx-radeon-hd-5770-1gb-gddr5-review.html) (@HardwareCanucks)

XFX Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 Review (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/24214-xfx-radeon-hd-5750-1gb-gddr5-review.html) (@HardwareCanucks)

ATI Radeon HD 5770/5750 Performance Preview (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_5770_5750_performance/) (@Firingsquad)

Radeon HD 5770 review (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-test/) (@Guru3D)

Midrange machinations: AMD's Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 and HD 5750 GPUs (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20670) (Hexus)

HIS Radeon HD 5770 (1GB) (http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=861) (@Legionhardware)

HIS Radeon HD 5770 1 GB (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5770/) (@techpowerup)

Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB Video Card (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2964/sapphire_radeon_hd_5770_1gb_video_card/index.html) (@tweaktown)

ATI Radeon HD 5770 and 5750 Mainstream DX11 GPUs (http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-5770-and-5750-Mainstream-DX11-GPUs/) (@hothardware)

Test: ATI Radeon HD 5770 (Crossfire) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2009/test_ati_radeon_hd_5770_crossfire/&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhmCMLZu3Lt1Vscsg_-ZAKVXbfqNw) (@computerbase)

ATI Radeon HD 5750 & HD 5770 – DirectX 11 pentru mainstream (http://lab501.ro/placi-video/ati-radeon-hd-5750-hd-5770-directx-11-pentru-mainstream) (@lab501)

mascotzel
13-10-2009, 10:37
inca n

Of, of, of....Nu asa haiducule...pune-le pe toate, inclusiv celelalte doua teste romanesti :)

ATI Radeon 5770 / 5750 şi CrossFireX 2x 5770 (http://www.wasd.ro/articole/3d/ati-radeon-5770-5750-si-2x-5770/) @ wasd

HD 5750 si HD 5770 - Solutii de buget pentru jocuri DirectX 11 (http://www.xpc.ro/modules.php?name=Articole&skin=0&tip=hard&subtip=Articol&id_articol=15168) @ XPC


http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...036&cid=3&pg=1
http://www.elitebastards.com/index.p...d=13&Itemid=27
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha.../hd5750hd5770/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=795
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...Range/Reviews/
http://www.techspot.com/news/36545-a...70-review.html
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/tawada/20091013_321190.html

Agnostic Front
13-10-2009, 11:54
Hmm, f. interesante cele doua placi de la ATI. Chiar cautam o placa pt PC-ul daily-use. Sper ca o sa apara si modele fara alimentare auxiliara, racite pasiv. In caz contrar ma voi orienta spre un 4670...
edit: am doar un S2 pe acasa :D poate gasesc pe CG si un S1 totusi ca sa fiu pregatit :)

mascotzel
13-10-2009, 11:56
cred ca merge S1 pe ele
oricum,consuma putin

madhorsefuzzy
13-10-2009, 22:28
nu e chiar consistenta performanta
ramane o felie de piata/performanta neacoperita cum trebuie ....le trebuie o placa pt a inlocui ce este 4890

E cam greu sa inlocuiasca 4890: 5770 are fix/exact aceeasi putere de procesare ca 4890 doar ca pe 40nm, are aceeasi cantitate de memorie, in schimb are doar 61,5% memory bandwidth (76,8 GByte/s vs. 124,8 GByte/s) din cat are 4890.

Ceea ce la rezolutii de 1920x1200 cu 4xAA sau 8xAA conteaza foarte mult.

Culmea e ca exista jocuri unde conteaza mai mult memory bandwidth decat cantitatea de memorie a placii. Ex.: in Race Driver GRID (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,697202/Ati-Radeon-HD-5770-reviewed-DirectX-11-Mid-Range/Reviews/?page=9) in 1920x1200 cu 4xAA 4870 cu 512MB este in fata 5770 cu 1GB din cauza aceluiasi memory bandwidth deficitar, desi ca putere de procesare a chip-ului 5770 este peste 4870.

Pe scurt: 5770 este un 4890 pe 40nm dar cu un bus mai ieftin pentru memorie de 128 biti care duce la un memory bandwidth deficitar, ce nu ar putea fi compensat cu frecvente mai mari ale actualelor chip-uri de memorie GDDR5.

Cam greu de realizat inca o implementare cu bus de 192 biti. ;)

Coco
19-10-2009, 15:22
How to Install DirectX 11 in Windows Vista (http://www.ngohq.com/news/16601-how-to-install-directx-11-in-windows-vista.html)

Coco
20-10-2009, 11:28
AMD Promises Better Availability of Radeon HD 5000 in Weeks (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/20/amd-promises-better-availability-of-radeon-hd-5000-in-weeks.html)

Andreea
22-10-2009, 21:40
ATI catalyst 9.10 (http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-64bit)

Coco
25-10-2009, 00:28
Vrajelutza de marketing... DiRT2 DX11 goodness shown on video: impressed? (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20838)

Mizerie de marketing... NVIDIA CEO: We Are A Software Company (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/24/nvidia-ceo-we-are-a-software-company.html)

Iar placile din seria HD 5xxx au pana la catalyst 9.11 cursorul MARE (http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17819)...

Coco
26-10-2009, 13:04
S3 Graphics Intros OpenCL-Capable Chrome 5400E GPGPU Processor (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/26/s3-graphics-intros-opencl-capable-chrome-5400e-gpgpu-processor.html) - cred ca singurul motiv pentru care am pus stirea e ca folosesc Google Chrome

http://en.expreview.com/img/2009/10/26/S3_Graphics_5400E.png


Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 Vapor-X Pictured (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/26/sapphire-radeon-hd-5750-vapor-x-pictured.html) - sper sa fie silentioasa aceasta racire dual-slot, desi ventilatorasul pare extrem de subtire...

atomidude
27-10-2009, 10:14
Eu unul m-am dat batut, nu mai caut 5850 ca ma apuca craciunu'. Am cumparat azi un Sapphire Vapox-R 4890 1GB cu cca. 155 EURO. N-o fi rapida ca seria 5000 dar are racire destul de silentioasa si eficienta, in plus a costat mult mai putin.

Coco
28-10-2009, 17:01
Specs and Pictures of Sapphire HD 5870 Vapor-X Surface (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/28/specs-and-pictures-of-sapphire-hd-5870-vapor-x-surface.html)


AMD set to increase Radeon HD 5800 prices? (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/27/amd-set-to-increase-radeon-hd-5800-prices.aspx) - motivele ar fi incapacitatea TSMC de a oferi suficiente produse pe 40 de nm, lipsa concurentilor Nvidia si, normal, legea cererii si a ofertei


AMD dumps DirectX 9 card support under Windows 7 - Get a new one (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16168/34/)

The list is quite long and it includes ATI Radeon 9500 Series, ATI Radeon 9550 Series, ATI Radeon 9600 Series, ATI Radeon 9700 Series, ATI Radeon 9800 Series, ATI Radeon X300 Series, ATI Radeon X550 Series, ATI Radeon X600 Series, ATI Radeon X700 Series, ATI Radeon X800 Series, ATI Radeon X850 Series, ATI Radeon X1050 Series, ATI Radeon X1300 Series, ATI Radeon X1550 Series, ATI Radeon X1600 Series, ATI Radeon X1650 Series, ATI Radeon X1800 Series, ATI Radeon X1900 Series, ATI Radeon X1200 Series, ATI Radeon X1250 Series ATI Radeon X2100 Series and ATI Radeon Xpress Series.


Nvidia leaks Geforce 3xxM series - Snapshot of new notebook chip names (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16170/34/) - stirea asta intareste zvonul cum ca noua generatie Fermi se va constitui din produse atat mainstrem si high end, cat si low-end, datorita arhitecturii scalabile (adica nu vom mai avea parte de redenumiri)


Update-uri oficiale pentru suport directx 11 in vista - aici (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=e1199d12-5b23-4769-b1e0-210ee147ce15) (32 de biti) si aici (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=e2da6ef8-92b6-4370-9e22-2c05a8c37ab0) (64 de biti)

Coco
29-10-2009, 13:30
PowerColor’s First Watercooled Radeon HD 5870 Looks Pretty (http://en.expreview.com/2009/10/29/powercolors-first-watercooled-radeon-hd-5870-looks-pretty.html)


Fermi GF100 to launch by early December (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16185/34/) - ar fi si cazul

Coco
30-10-2009, 12:08
HD 5870X2 (HD 5970) Benchmarks and Images (http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=12606) - se pare ca nu va incapea in 80% din carcase (avand probleme si in Antec 1200); in conditiile in care 5870 este o placa super-hiper-arhi-suficienta pentru orice joc la rezolutii normale (monitoarele de 30' fiind mai anormale :D), utilitatea acestei noi placi video se va rezuma la bench-uri

The card itself is 13.5 inches long, and has problems fitting even a full sized tower case like the Antec 1200. We are told that it is not possible to put a hard drive next to the card in this case.

http://i38.tinypic.com/b498r4.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/akem46.jpg


O problema imensa atat pentru ATI cat si pentru Nvidia este insa asta... TSMC 40nm yield issues resurface, CEO promises fix by year-end (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091030PD209.html)

Cosmin_NFS
30-10-2009, 13:23
dupa screenul din gpu-z placa pare o 5850X2,nu 5870X2(uitati-va la frecvente) .Anyway,placa e un animal:evil:

DeDeRa
30-10-2009, 13:47
Nu are nicio legatura frecventa. GTX 295 e 2x GTX 260 si frecventele sunt total diferite.

Cosmin_NFS
30-10-2009, 13:52
de fapt GTX 295 e formata din doua 275;)

DeDeRa
30-10-2009, 13:59
Citez de pe un forum:
Varianta GTX 295 standard este formata din 2 placi GTX 260 Pe vremea cand aparuse GTX295, GTX275 nu era nici macar in planuri.

Cosmin_NFS
30-10-2009, 14:39
Citez de pe un forum: Pe vremea cand aparuse GTX295, GTX275 nu era nici macar in planuri.

da,dar frecventele sunt identice,plus ca fiecare "miez" din gtx 295 are 240SP,adica exact ca gtx 275;)

M3kk
31-10-2009, 13:42
EVGA: Announcing the GTX 275 CO-OP PhysX! (http://www.evga.com/articles/00503/)

http://www.evga.com/articles/00503/images/header.jpg

Coco
31-10-2009, 16:02
GTX 275 CO-OP PhysX sau cum sa faci bani din Physx si sa vinzi la suprapret 2 pastile din fosta generatie.

Baieti destepti cei de la Nvidia, se pricep la vrajeli... pacat pentru ei insa ca au scos din driver-ul lor de windows 7 posibilitatea rularii Physx cand o placa ATI este prezenta in sistem (windows 7 permite rularea simultana a 2 placi video cu driver-e diferite). Era sansa lor sa ii convinga pe detinatorii de placi ATI sa cumpere la nevoie si o placa secundara Nvidia (gen GTS 250) pentru jocuri cu efecte Physx. Dar ei nu, Betmen, Betmen... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmgqpacCZMc&feature=player_embedded)


Report: Fermi-based GPU will debut 'by early December' (http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17860)

Coco
02-11-2009, 17:03
HD 5950 is not a dual-GPU card (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63406/radeon-hd-5970-benchmarks-gelekt-en-hd-5950-is-geen-dual-gpu-kaart.html&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=) - cica 5950 nu ar fi dual-gpu, ci doar un 5870 cu mai multe conexiuni si poate overclock-at


Nvidia's Geforce GT 240 launches November 17th (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16205/1/) + GeForce GT 240 details slip through the cracks (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=30630&catid=2) - daca pretul e la fel de mare cum a fost al lui GT 210, inseamna ca sunt defecti alde producatorii de software de la Nvidia


the GT 240 features 96 Processing Cores, a 128-bit memory interface and 512MB or 1GB of GDDR3 memory, PhysX and CUDA support, a single-slot cooling system, and D-Sub, DVI and HDMI outputs. In terms of clocks, the upcoming card has its GPU, shaders and memory set to 550, 1340 and 1700/1800 MHz (512/1020 MB VRAM).

The GeForce GT 240 is expected to be released later this month so expect more info (and pictures of the card) very soon. Not excited eh? Same here.

Coco
03-11-2009, 13:48
Sapphire officially announces the Vapor-X HD 5870 and HD 5750 (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=30657&catid=2)

Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB Vapor-X graphics card: the best in the world? @ hexus (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20948&page=2) - eu prefer varianta stock - pentru genul asta de racire trebuie sa ai o carcasa foarte aerisita (Antec 200, 300 etc); iar overclock-ul slabutz se poate obtine foarte usor si cu cea stock

the dude
03-11-2009, 14:02
Poate e mai silentioasa sau mai rece. Sau poate amandoua :P

DeDeRa
03-11-2009, 22:42
Eu am hd5850 si cred ca racire e cam aceeasi la hd5870. Crede-ma... e silentios doar la 25%. La 30% se aude clar, iar la 50% e agasant ptr mine.
Deci... vapor-x va fi o mana cereasca.

Coco
04-11-2009, 13:46
si de unde stii tu ca vaporx va fi silentioasa la 25%? de unde stii ca vei putea controla turatia ventilatorului inclus? eu deocamdata vad doar o placa cu nitel oc care impinge cam tot aerul cald in carcasa, plus un pcb mai scurt si foarte probabil mai ieftin de produs. Si spre deosebire de voi am citit (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20948&page=2) ca...

the Vapor-X is a touch louder than AMD's stock cooler



Nvidia Fermi to be demonstrated in January? (http://vr-zone.com/articles/updated--rumour-nvidia-fermi-to-be-demonstrated-in-january-/7983.html?doc=7983) - din pacate pentru ATI aceasta intarziere nu inseamna mare lucru, in conditiile in care placile lor nu prea sunt disponibile

Today's reports claim Nvidia are likely to have working samples not before 2nd week of January 2010. Xbitlabs speculates an actual release for February 2010. HardOCP is less optimistic, suggesting any "real availability" is unlikely even for March 2010, in a best case scenario.

DeDeRa
04-11-2009, 17:20
Daca va fi mai zgomotos... e prea penibil.

Coco
05-11-2009, 17:07
Sapphire HD 5870 and HD 5750 Vapor-X Review @ occ (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd5870_5750_vaporx/) - 5750-ul celor de la Sapphire nu pare a avea un pcb diferit fata de original (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5770-hd5750_4.html#sect0), desi e de culoare neagra (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_hd5870_5750_vaporx/3.htm) :D, doar racirea pare putin imbunatatita.

In schimb, ceea ce e foarte interesant e pretul variantei de 512 MB de HD 4750 (http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/sapphire/sapphire-hd5750-512mb-ddr5-128-bit/) - mi se pare cam pomana la vreo 360 RON


Intra in scena si GTS 240 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16297/34/), insa preturile desi par mai bune ca data trecuta (GTS 220), parca sunt din nou mari (adica intre 70 si 90 de euro in functie de tipul memoriei - DDR5/DDR3 si racire) in raport cu un 5750 de 512 MB. Astept oricum testele...

mario08
06-11-2009, 13:44
Nu te bucura de acest gen de "preturi-pomana" , romanasul are grija de asta
Au pus un pret informativ si in momentul cand il vor aveea practic mai discutam

Coco
07-11-2009, 18:58
mda... raspunsul celor de la itdirect a fost ca nu stiu cand va fi disponibila, avand informatii legate doar de cea de 1 GB - peste 2 saptamani.

Coco
07-11-2009, 19:02
MSI Big Bang Fuzion just waiting for tuned Lucid Hydra drivers, then launch (http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10192.html)

Care driver-i s-ar putea sa nu mai apara niciodata, daca ne luam dupa zvonul asta... Report: NVIDIA Plans to Block Lucid’s Hydra Chip (http://en.expreview.com/2009/11/06/report-nvidia-plans-to-block-lucids-hydra-chip.html)

Tinand cont ca Nvidia nu prea e genul care sa fie de acord cu rularea tehnologiilor sale precum Physx pe alt hardware decat cel Nvidia, cred ca asta se va si intampla.

Coco
07-11-2009, 19:17
Nvidia: Fermi in Q1 2010 (http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-fermi-in-q1-2010/8006.html?doc=8006) - aceeasi stire reconfirmata si enervanta pentru cei care vor 5850-uri mai ieftine


ATI Catalyst 9.11 Beta (http://www.ngohq.com/news/16732-ati-catalyst-9-11-beta.html) leak-uite

Coco
10-11-2009, 15:58
AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5950 makes an unscheduled appearance (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21080) - 2*5850, destul de lunga; daca racirea ramane aceea atasata, ma surprinde ca nu prea acopera zona VRM.


AMD plans Redwood GPU to replace HD 4770 - Also replacing HD 4670 and HD 4650 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16357/34/)

Coco
12-11-2009, 13:37
Lucid HYDRA 200 Multi-GPU Technology Performance Preview @ pcper (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=815&type=expert&pid=1)

Hands on with Lucid's Hydra GPU load balancer @ techreport (http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/17934)

Lucid Hydra 200 Multi-GPU Performance Revealed @ hothardware (http://hothardware.com/Articles/Lucid-Hydra-200-MultiGPU-Performance-Revealed/?page=1)

Asa cum observa cei de la brightsideofnews (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/11/11/is-lucids-hydra-200-really-ready2c-or-are-they-pulling-a-fermi.aspx), toate cele 3 teste de mai sus sunt de fapt poze si informatii de la sediul celor de la Lucid. Pe scurt, probleme de driver-e (cum sustine MSI) se pare ca nu exista iar actuala varianta NU suporta DirectX 11. Mie sincer mi-e teama ca nu cumva inca o tehnologie interesanta a unei companii mici sa fie ,,devorata" de interesele economice ale barosanilor din domeniu.

http://www.techreport.com/r.x/hydra-preview/fear2.gif

http://www.techreport.com/r.x/hydra-preview/coj.gif

Coco
16-11-2009, 21:48
Geforce GT 240 launch price is $99 (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16411/1/) - la pretul asta toate Physx-urile si CUDele din lume nu o vor face sa fie cumparata decat de catre cei neinformati / pacaliti de vrajelutele publicitare specifice

The memory of choice is GDDR3 at 2000MHz or GDDR5 at 3400MHz and the card will come with either 512MB or 1024MB. The emory interface is 128-bit wide and the card will sit between Geforce GT 220 and Geforce 9800GT in terms performance.

Nvidia compares GT 240 cards with Radeon HD 4670 and beats it in top 11 games, at least in the GDDR5 version.

NVIDIA shows off Fermi Tesla at Supercomputing '09 (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21162) - demonstratia unui produs care va aparea peste juma' de an. SUUPPPEEERRRRR!!!!!!!

NVIDIA has priced the C2050 and C2070 at $2,499 and $3,999, whilst the Tesla S2050 and S2070 will go for $12,995 and $18,995 respectively. All four offerings will be available from May 2010.

Radeon HD 5970 Listed at $599.99 (http://en.expreview.com/2009/11/16/radeon-hd-5970-listed-at-59999.html) - in conditiile in care, repet, 5870 e o super-placa arhisuficienta pentru orice joc la rezolutii normale (pana in 1920*1200), cea X2 (5970) mi se pare doar de show.

Coco
18-11-2009, 17:31
Teste la gramada cu 5970, inclusiv in crossfire. Surprinde (ca limitare a performantei in anumite situatii, gen rezolutiii de 2560*1600) si nu prea (dpdv al greutatii implementarii tehnologice a unei latimi de 512 biti) in anumite cazuri latimea de banda de ,,doar" 2*256 biti... oricum, repet, cine isi ia o placa din asta are mari probleme cu gagalica, avand in vedere cat de bun e 5870-ul. Cum ziceau Anandtecii, e OVERKILL pentru un singur monitor.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...072&cid=3&pg=1
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...on-review.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...0launchreview/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/EAH5970
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...5970_CrossFire
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...03&Item id=47
http://www.techspot.com/review/221-ati-radeon-hd-5970/
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article855.html
http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/ati_hd5970/
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3679
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/...o_card_review/

eXpander
18-11-2009, 21:26
Pai nu conteaza ca e overkill. E noul rege al placilor video ;)

Coco
27-11-2009, 10:35
Nvidia adds GeForce 310 and 205 to its OEM offer (http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=31191&catid=2&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+tcmagazine+(Techconnect+Magazin e)&utm_content=Google+Reader)

Before you ask, no, the 310 is not even remotely Fermi-based, it's simply a renamed GF 210 with 16 Processing Cores, a 589 MHz core clock, 1402 MHz shaders, a 64-bit memory interface paired up with 512MB of DDR2 memory @ 500 MHz.
Cu toate astea eu inca sper ca redenumirile nvidioate sa nu mai fie practicate pe viitor si in zona mainstream...

faraprejudecati
27-11-2009, 20:29
Sisteme HTPC + gaming cu noua placa video low profile:

Sparkle GTS250 (http://techpowerup.com/109199/SPARKLE_Launches_World_s_First_GeForce_GTS_250_Gra phics_Card_with_Low_Profile_Design.html)

Coco
05-12-2009, 00:15
Radeon HD 5670 vs 4670 benchmark (http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/ati-radeon-hd-5670-vs-4670-benchmark-68209)

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/attachments/f22/3113d1259766769-ati-radeon-hd-5670-vs-4670-benchmark-graph-1.png



Radeon HD 5770 First & Second Edition Performance Comparison (http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/04/radeon-hd-5770-first-second-edition-performance-comparison/6015.html/2) - noua racire e mai ieftina si mai buna ca temperatura a pastilei, dar probabil mai zgomotoasa

Coco
05-12-2009, 00:18
Intel Larrabee finally hits 1TFLOPS - 2.7x faster than nVidia GT200! (http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/2/intel-larrabee-finally-hits-1tflops---27x-faster-than-nvidia-gt200!.aspx) - FOARTE FOARTE INTERESANT!!! Sunt insa curios daca va conta si pentru gamer-i noua aparitie...