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    Hmm, dracia aia de GTX 280 haleste cam 15A din 12V.

    Sursa ta are 2 rail-uri de 12V de 16A respectiv 17A. Un rail o sa fie saturat la maxim numai cu placa video.
    Daca sursa ar fi fost single rail sau ar fi avut OCP-ul setat la 20A sau macar daca ar sti sa-si balanseze load-ul pe rail-uri nu era nicio problema, dar asa cred ca pot apare oaresce probleme. Plus ca n-ai conector PCI-E cu 8 pini.
    Oricum sugerez si eu sa incerci. Nu ia nimic foc dar monitorizeaza daca ai erori ciudate sau sursa se incinge/tureaza fan-ul mai tare e un semn ca e impinsa spre limita.
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    carcasa e un Antec P180, in compartimentul de jos am un fan de 120 care trage si impinge in sursa + fanul sursei, mai ventilata de atat, nu cred ca se poate
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastOne View Post
    o luam de la capat si anume ... sursa este un Seasonic S12-500 revA3, intre timp s-a cam schimbat configuratia dupa cum urmeaza :

    Asus Rampage Formula
    Intel Q9550 @ 3.4Ghz
    2x Mushkin 4GB DDR2 XP2-8500 Extreme (4x 2Gb)
    Gainward 7900GT GS 512Mb 1.2ns
    1x Samsung SP0812N
    2x Samsung SP2504C
    2x Samsung HD501LJ


    intrebarea care ma arde este : credeti ca ma tine sursa daca inlocuiesc 7900GT-ul cu un GTX280 ?
    Sursele foarte bune (cum este si cazul seasonic) pot duce mai mult decit scrie pe ele in cele mai multe cazuri dar cred ca esti la limita in cazul asta si poate o sa vrei sa faci putin oc si la gtx 280, deci vinde sursa cit este in stare buna si mai pune ceva bani pentru Corsair TX750 care este o sursa de exceptie (We were not only impressed by the fact that a power supply labeled as a 750 W product could deliver 900 W but also because it could maintain an efficiency over 80% under this circumstance).

    L.E.
    Sunt foarte curios sa vad daca tine seasonicul, in mod normal nu se poate intimpla nimic rau sursa are protectii etc, dar nu se stie niciodata intotdeauna exista un risc cind duci lucrurile la limita.
    Ce pot sa-ti mai spun e ca am avut un sesonic s12 500 care ducea q6600 la 3600 (a vazut si 3900) gf 8800 ultra overclockata + watercooling, 2hdd, 2 dvd-rw, 4gb ram, ventilatoare, fdd.Partea interesanta e ca nu se auzea aproape defel in sarcina maxima si nici aer cald nu scotea - spre deosebire de corsair hx 1000w care este o sursa buna dar la aceeasi configuratie doar ca video e gtx 280 face zgomot putin mai mare ca seasonicul si scoate si putin aer cald (nu ca ar fi ceva anormal dar seasonicul ala chiar m-a impresionat)
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    o sa fac proba ... daca schiopata o sa schimb sursa ... asta e, cu toate ca imi pare rau de ea


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    am o oferta, sursa mea + 200 ron pe un PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W Silencer, merita ?
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    Eu zic sa nu mai stai pe ginduri, este nu numai o sursa foarte solida si buna dar si silentioasa, are protectii care functioneaza, conectori de toate felurile.
    ''We were really impressed by this power supply. It not only could deliver its labeled power at 50º C, but we could pull up to 868 W also at 50º C!''
    ''And amazingly the fan of this power supply was really quiet. We could only hear it when the unit was pulling its full 750 W or more. Then it started to make a lot of noise. ''
    Burebista - in afara de certificarea CF mai exista alte diferente intre modelul S75CF (testat de hardwaresecrets) si S75QB ?
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    Merita. Dai un Seasonic genuine dar depasit moral pe un Seasonic remasterat de PC P&C si single rail cum le place celor de la PC P&C.
    Sursa solida dar sper ca n-ai sa ajungi s-o tii peste 400W load pentru ca s-a dus dreq Silencer din denumirea ei.
    The 80MM fan was fairly quiet, especially considering it's an 80MM fan. The noise coming from it was more of a low hum than the high pitched whir you would normally hear from an 80MM. By test 7, it actually became fairly noticeable sitting four feet from the side of the case, and by test 8 and 9 it was so loud one could hear it from the next room.
    Nici cu sor'sa de 610W nu mi-e rusine la zgomot.
    The acoustic performance is fairly good, staying modest in our test setup till well past 300W, which is about as high a peak load as you'll encounter in a sane quiet PC. Above this power level, the fan noise rose to a higher level than any other PSU tested in recent memory. It's a moot point as anything above 30 dBA@1m or so is simply too loud, but the fan behavior is indicative of a decision to keep the unit well-cooled, especially at higher load, even at the cost of higher noise. That high speed 80mm fan does not scale down well; its sound signature at idle is not particularly benign. In a quiet room (installed in an otherwise quiet PC), it will be easily heard, and many listeners will hear it as being at least mildly annoying, due to the complex mix of tonal sounds.
    Da' tu stai linistit ca nu cred ca o sa treci prea curind de fo' 350W consum din sursa cu tot cu OC.
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    atat timp cat nu pileste suruburi nu ma deranjeaza zgomotul ... + ca sistemul se afla intr-un birou cu inca 3 calculatoare nu in dormitor


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    ma gandeam sa fac un update al situatiei, dupa cum urmeaza :

    - upgrade-ul sursei nu a mai avut loc, tipul cu sursa de 750W s-a dovedit a fi neserios
    - am luat placa, un Gigabyte GTX 280
    - din cauza dimensiunilor placii unul din tray-urile de hdd al custii de hdd-uri de sus a trebuit sa il scot ca sa incapa placa
    - au urmat 2 zile de chinuri pt sistem, jocuri, benckmark-uri, stress tests, pana acum nu am observat nimic neobisnuit care sa dea de inteles ca sursa ar avea dificultati.

    in Antec-ul meu P180 ca si intake in zona de sus a carcasei am montat un fan XILENCE de 120mm (care nu e nici pe departe la fel de nervos, apropo de volumul de aer mutat, ca precursorul Tricool in schimb e mult mai silentios)

    - in idle cu fan-ul (placii) setat la 50% placa sta in 50 grade
    - in full load cu fan-ul (placii) setat la 100% placa sta in 78 de grade


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    OK, nici macar nu e mai calda in full-load?
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    masurat cu degetometrul nu sesizez o diferentza de temperatura (pe partea exterioara a sursei, langa butonul de on-off) intre idle si 15 min full-load (FurMark + Prime95)

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    instalez acum Asus Probe II sa arunc o privire si la voltaje in full-load
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    Cum am zis mai sus seasonicul meu de 500 cu toate componentele oc (q6600 - 8800 ultra water etc) load nu se auzea si nici nu scotea aer cald dar m-am gindit ca nu am verificat bine sau nu mai tin eu minte sigur dar vad ca tine sursa asta bine de tot.
    lastOne - poti sa-ti faci tu setarile pentru fanul placii grafice cum vrei tu
    La mine cu : 40-100-38-32-110-10-110 este putin zgomotoasa dar nu trece nici in fur de 70-80c (depinde de caldura din camera) - dar avind sonorul mai tare sau casti nu auzi nimic
    Joaca-te cu setarile de mai sus cum vrei tu cu tabul de hw monitoring deschis sa vezi cum reactioneaza fanul.
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    setarile mele la fan sunt: 50-100-50-26-70-45-80

    fisierul .xls din arhiva calculeaza T_Range-ul in functie de setarile pe care le vrei, mie mi-se pare mai atent fan-ul cu T_Range injumatatit.


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    formula o am dintr-un post de pe guru3d.com, explica un tip acolo ce si cum ...
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    Eu nu prea mi-am pierdut vremea cu setarile ca nu ma prea joc si la bench nu-ti trebuie numai o setare
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